sam
@sam@cablespaghetti.dev
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https://cablespaghetti.dev/hosting-a-fediverse-instance-on-an-original-raspberry-pi.html
@sam this was fun!
I spotted a typo: `apk install acme.sh`
Should be `apk add…`.
I also wonder if the periodic script actually runs with the .sh suffix? If my memory serves me correctly you may need to drop the .sh suffix or it will now run.
@sam MUST - RESIST - URGE - TO - BOOST. 😁
Also, very inspired domain name for a Homelab. 😂
I am very much against the AI industrial complex but my goodness it’s becoming an online purity test, isn’t it?
Just as most CEOs seem incapable of understanding what “AI” is and are blindly following it, there seems to be a contingent of Mastodon who are at the other end of the spectrum. AI is a marketing term at this point for anything that uses a model, and you’ve been using such things for years before you heard of ChatGPT…
Fight the actual issues that hurt us. There’s no need to go on a frothing rant just because you saw the acronym ”AI”.
For the record this is not me coming out as some AI stan. I hate *all* computing technology equally and would like to live in a cabin in the wilderness.
@awfulwoman My work over the last couple of years has had a heavy ML component to it, and genuinely it has been such an important and valuable aspect that we couldn't have done without. I've felt a bit similarly - I'm no blanket AI stan, but with use cases like trust and safety where protecting real people from seeing awful stuff where possible is a big concern / speed and scale of response being much larger than is practical for humans, I get a bit frustrated when people think it's all chatgpt
@sally bingo. Sorry that you gotta wade through that!
@awfulwoman Less of an issue on gardening leave for sure 😆🤷🏻♀️
@sally ah fuck I hadn’t seen your earlier posts. Sorry babe. :( But you’re gonna land something good. ❤️
@awfulwoman ackchually "AI" is an initialism, not an acronym. Do better.
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@awfulwoman it's particularly visible in my domain (education) and somehow I'm ending up being grouped with the AI side just because I think demanding "AI abstinence" from students is stupid, patronising and counterproductive.
@awfulwoman I can’t wait for the stupid bubble to pop and we can sensibly talk about the use for LLMs again with all the hype train bullshit.
Thanks for the hookup GitHub!
https://docs.projectbluefin.io/blog/2025/08/29/github-oss-fund/
Good morning
(It is currently part of the morning routine for the little horse to wait for the goats in that one spot where it's easy for the goats to climb on him, then he happily accepts back massages)
@sundogplanets I saw goats using horses as a platform to jump across their fence. The owner was not happy collecting goats in the streets.
@kobold So far my goats haven't escaped from the horse, but they're probably already scheming about that...
@sundogplanets
The little horse is not the only one getting relaxed, me too by watching the scene. Thanks for sharing it! ;)
🤗🐐🐐🐐🐴🐎🐴🐎❤️🤍💜🫂💛💚💙💗🩵🩷🧡🐐🐴🐎🤗*Good Morning!*& Happy Friday!*& I love the picture!*& I adore goats!*I wish you a Wonderful Day!🤗🐐🐴🐎❤️🤍💜💛💚💙🫂💙💗🩵🩷🧡🐐🐴🐎🤗
This morning there was actually a line of teenage goats waiting to climb up on the horse and give him a massage. (One goat just couldn't wait and tried to climb on another goat instead, doesn't work as well.)
Why does one goat get to wear a necklace?
@helplessduck The keepers get necklaces (collars). The ones I'm trying to sell don't (though I think I'm actually going to keep the grey one as well. So she needs a necklace too!)
@sundogplanets so jealous of your horse. i've tried to train one of my cats to do the walking on my back thing but she's not very interested in it; she's no goat that's for certain.
@sundogplanets Probably you heard about goat yoga. I was wondering how they got goats to jump on people doing yoga, but it seems they love to do it
I always enjoy looking at public display screens when they've crashed.
BusNet is like SkyNet but there's a strong chance you'll have to wait for a replacement Terminator that may get cancelled anyway.
I feel like this needs a hashtag. There must be more crashed public computer enjoyers out there…
BusNet would like to apologise for any inconvenience caused by interruption to the Terminator service. This has been due to a previously delayed Terminator and signalling issues at Crewe.
@slowe it is mandatory to report all such sightings to @kevlin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odlWJEfTGNc&t=2m50s
While I drag this "why the bloody hell is his thing so heavy?" desktop on the bus I am pondering some important life questions.
Is there a lethal oral dose of mozzarella?
In related notes the garden is currently at the stage of too many tomatoes.
On the second, I’m currently in Italy and mozzarella is plentiful and cheap. I’m making a good go of finding out the answer and will let you know (or I suppose I won’t if the answer is yes).
@sam
Just your bog standard reasonable spec Dell Windows work box.
Where in Italy are you?
@sam
Nice. I used to love Eurocamp (et al) type places as a kid/teenager. I keep thinking about doing one again. Probably south France.
@sam
Le Vieux Port was probably my favourite one we went to. Great as a younger kid and as a 16 year old who spent most of the time getting pissed with other people I met. Messanges is quite a nice little town to walk into as well.
I also did that most momentous act that a teenager can do on the beach there. Her name was Katie and she was from Chiswick.
Watching the premier of the Python documentary ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfH4QL4VqJ0 ). Reminded how the Python 2 -> 3 transition has a lot of parallels to the IPv4 -> #IPv6 transition.
I’ve had this book on my “To Read” list for about four years, since reading the Wayfarers series back to back.
I put it off because frankly £10 for an ebook copy of a 150 novella is expensive and I was hoping it would get cheaper at some point.
Anyway, I’m at a point in my life where I’ve got a high pressure job, two demanding boys, a wife to keep happy and bills to pay. Frankly it all gets a bit much at times and I do find myself questioning the purpose of it all.
Honestly maybe I need to find religion, but in the absence of that this book is pretty bloody relatable to me right now. I will definitely be recommending it to others as a thought provoking quick read.
AWS Client VPN now supports connectivity to IPv6 resources
Posted on: Aug 26, 2025
https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2025/08/aws-client-vpn-connectivity-ipv6-resources/
Online Safety Act going well then (from Reddit r/LegalAdviceUK)
Tim Berners-Lee wrote this in 1999. 26 years later: https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/department-justice-prevails-landmark-antitrust-case-against-google
I remember reading a comment 10-20 years ago that said something to the effect of, "The Star Trek holodeck would be humanity's last invention."
There's nothing more potently addictive than a room that can conjure up every conceivable place, person, thing, whim, or desire.
I think what we're seeing with "AI" is a kind of "dialectical holodeck," where people enter in, wrap themselves up in a fantasy world created by a twisted algorithm designed to satisfy the user's curiosity and cater to their every verbal whim, and think it's their greatest reality.
@rl_dane I used to predict that LLM companies were a bubble that would pop when it became clear their products were basically at their peak performance rather than just an early taste of great things yet to come, and that usage would disappear once they had to charge the actual running costs of the things - but I'm beginning to fear their actual product-market fit is as a kind of addiction, a comforting voice that says what you want to hear, and that enough people will pay for that...
@kitten_tech @rl_dane These "businesses" still make no money. At some point they'll have to increase prices to get back the investment and eventually even make a profit.
That's the point where things will become interesting: are people willing to pay any amount of money to have a virtual yes-man in their lives or is there a breaking point?
@kitten_tech @rl_dane isn't this the business model of Instagram or tiktok?
@rl_dane Oddly enough - this was my reasoning in a random poll yesterday...
@rl_dane I remember that article, BTW!
Really? When/where/what was it? I don't remember anything more than the premise of the headline. XD
@rl_dane I think it was one of those "Listicle" articles that was popular circa 2011?
🗣️ "I notice a lot of 5xx errors from the application during scale-in of the pods after a spike period."
I was asked this question last week and spent some time debugging the issue. In the process, I realized there is confusion about how Kubernetes does (not do) graceful shutdown.
So, I decided to rewrite our article on graceful shutdown and augment it with some knowledge I gained during the years!
You can find the full article here: https://learnk8s.io/graceful-shutdown
@sam
I just want O2 to accept my perfectly valid not weird e-mail address - it's like a@bcde.co.uk - they refuse to accept one character local parts.
Actually I don't care now, I'm no longer a customer.
My daughter, who has had a degree in computer science for 25 years, posted this observation about ChatGPT on Facebook. It's the best description I've seen:
Email addresses are very simple, and you will score highly in this quiz.
@samwho as someone who once wrote an entire sendmail.cf from scratch - without m4 - I feel utterly ashamed to have scored 11/21.
I scored 18/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.
(But I have a slight advantage being a network engineer.)
@samwho for some reason, Ironfox really didn't like this site, but I did! 16/21 on Firefox!
@semitones Likely because it's a new domain. A few of the DNS privacy/security services don't like that (and rightly so), but I am impatient and don't plan ahead.
@samwho It costs less dev time to just send mail to invalid addresses, anybody who doesn't get their confirmation link simply can't confirm their address... it's win/win
@samwho I scored 12/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.
better than expected!
@samwho I scored 13/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.
I scored 10/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.
I wouldn't even try a JS quiz. That language is truly cursed.
@rl_dane @samwho Obviously... which is why the quiz is so hilarious. I've watched the infamous "wat" lightning talk (still the best lightning talk of all time IMO: https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/wat), and I still utterly failed :P
@samwho "I scored 12/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media."
@samwho I find it very interesting how much is allowed in an email address. Why? Maybe they had some idea to expand the uses back in the day (kinda like show a URL became an I striction set for http replies in API), but it never materialized?
@samwho
"I scored 14/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media."
@samwho
I scored 13/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.
@samwho
I scored 15/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.
@samwho I scored 12/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.
@samwho Having suffered through the audio quality of this genius talk https://youtu.be/xxX81WmXjPg, I felt prepared and knew some of the pitfalls. 16/21
@samwho I scored 10/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.
@samwho I scored 14/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.
@samwho I scored 15/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.
😔
@samwho I scored 11/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.
@samwho I was going to mention the gmail dots thing, but someone else did, but I will mention an entertaining edge case it doesn’t mention is that in quoted local parts *it’s valid to have line breaks*😱
@samwho I don't think domain example.com delivers mail ;P
Part of my trouble with the quiz is the conflict between what defines a valid RFC822/RFC2822 address (which is pretty broad) and what is allowed as part of an SMTP address (a lot more restricted, demanding FQDNs or IPv4/IPv6 addresses on the right). Additionally, there's whether there's deliverability…while example.com does resolve with A and AAAA records, there's no mailserver there. Similarly, does this produce a "valid" email address?
$ LANG=C tr -cd 'a-z' < /dev/random | fold -50 | awk '{print "user@"$0".com"; exit}'
user@ohejwliirfidowqfouoghbopglncsjmydmbzrxlwuzlcsisejy.com
I mean, it's technically a valid email address, but with 26⁵⁰ possible domain-names, it's highly unlikely to actually exist/resolve for deliverable mail. ☺
And I thought I know email. Cc @heiglandreas
I scored 14/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.
@samwho I scored 13/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.
Really great quiz! And, learnt a lot about it too.
@samwho okay i'll admit i got 12 in my first try (i would have gotten 14 if i trusted my gut more) and then did a second attempt with 20/21 and a third attempt with everything right and then this one ... I mainly wanted to know the response I'd get off if i had everything wrong.
@samwho This is amazing! I was 100% sure spaces were (technically) allowed in the localpart, until I learned about the quoted form 🙈
@samwho That's just wrong. If an RFC gets amended and a client implements the latest, this can't be valid. Also, servers may reject the address on their level of implementation.
This email address is invalid.
@samwho I was waiting for a question about angle brackets and snarky remarks about what can go outside of them.
@samwho EZ GG, First try
I scored 21/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.
Even though I know a lot about it, I don't want to run my own mail server anymore.
@samwho And of course: Just because an address is invalid doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. And is in active use. And just works ... most of the time.
@samwho I scored 12/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.
As someone who currently uses "*" as a local part I was disappointed to only get 17. I forgot about the 998 octet rule and and remain pretty dubious about emoji as domain literal. Most of them were pretty obvious to me. Some of those "invalid" ones seem to work in practice.
Go ahead and email me at <i...wonder@qaz.wtf>
It should work if your client isn't a pedantic piece of shit.
(edit s/client is/client isn't/
And for the record "Roundcube" is in my mind)
@samwho I scored 12/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.
Lol
@samwho I scored 10/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media. 😂😂😂
@samwho
I scored 13/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.
@samwho "above average" yay but I was expecting to get one point for knowing what a bang path is and didn't see a single bang path.
@samwho what the fuck
I should have done a better job of explaining up front which RFCs I referenced for this, and that just because an address parses with some EBNF in an RFC doesn't mean it's going to actually work anywhere.
It's a bit of fun, the score doesn't have any bearing on how spectacular you are at your job. :)
@samwho
16/21. Most of my errors were related to dots in the username, email is a lot more strict than I expected.
@samwho 12/21, so I am not really an e-mail expert, only sending and receiving them, but thanks @thunderbird for making that easy.
@till We wish we could have made that quiz easier, but we're happy to make everything else about email easy!
@samwho I scored 14/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.
@samwho
I scored 15/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media. 🤓
@samwho 13 of 21, WTF indeed. Thanks for the entertaining education! Sadly, way too many services even reject plus addresses.
@samwho i didnt
@AnthroBlogger When I ran through it the last time before posting about it, I scored 20/21.
I scored 10/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.
Might I say, this is amazing and email addresses are ridiculous.
@samwho I scored 13/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.
I do work with a software that has to deal with emails and I didn't really pay attention so I probably would have gotten 2 more points if I did I guess. Most of the complexity is handled outside of our code though, of course I should say. Writing your own code to validate emails would be a bad mistake. Yes, everybody does it, it's still wrong.
@samwho I got 15/21. Although I disagree with some of the ones it said I answered wrong.
I apparently need to work on my SMTP nerd skills. 🤓🫡
@samwho
"I scored 12/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media."
Sure I guess, makes as much sense as the rules do!
Hey, Linux folks: does anyone have a sense of when/if there will ever be automated distribution version upgrades? Like, way back in the early 90s, I could install one version of Windows on top of another and lose nothing, but I screwed up my Deb 12 to Deb 13 upgrade and had to wipe it and start from scratch. That's on me, ofc, but an automated system would have saved me.
Thoughts?
I dont think versions make sense at all
#OpenSUSE #Slowroll is currently the only rolling distro with delayed feature updates, so you get more stable features but backported security fixes
The issue is that configurations change and so much has version numbers, like PHP, Python etc.
We recently had an Apache config looking for the wrong PHP version, so you could absolutely upgrade but the config was broken after that. This could be handled by the OS though.
@OrionKidder #Debian also notifies you of new default configurations, and you should check them for one machine at least to see if there are important new defaults
This could also be easy to clear up instead of just showing you a diff of the file, what was manually changed and what is just a default setting. But not totally easy.
I am not sure why there isnt even an option to auto-update many distros.
#Atomic distros like #HeliumOS, #CoreOS, #AlmalinuxBootc could make this a bit better
@OrionKidder People solved this long ago, Bluefin, etc ...
@jorge Yeah, I'm learning that I'm just not on a distribution, Debian, that's interested in automated upgrades. Alas. I love Gnome, and I don't love Red Hat, so here I sit.
@OrionKidder some distros like nixos always had it. You can do this yourself with btrfs or zfs snapshots(look at snapper [^1]) finally most immutable distributions will have exactly that behavior. Unfortunately most distributions don’t think this is an important feature. Specially in so traditional thinking environments like Debian.
Also fun how many distros want a password for updating existing packages. Like, is this a security risk or is your package manager just broken?
@Rhababerbarbar @OrionKidder you change files owned by root in an update. Asking for a password seems to be a good measure to check if you are allowed to do this.
No you dont. If you update and manually change config files then yes
Otherwise your systems package manager is replacing old packages you got from your distro with new packages from your distro
What do you wanna do? Fork a package? Not update it?
If you trust the distro, using the latest security fixes is no additional trust. And if they dont have backports that means the latest packages
@Rhababerbarbar to ask for a password to perform updates is not a philosophical question but a technical necessity introduced by system specifics and decisions, some of which date back to the 70s.
its a fine balance between convenience, complexity and safety/security.
you can totally make your apt work without a password. just set suid on the binary and problem solved. but by this you totally crashed the balance in the triangle threw the safety over board. :)
@OrionKidder I've upgraded from Sarge all the way to Trixie, and only ever installed from scratch with all new hardware - though sometimes I've swapped all the disks over or the motherboard and kept the rest the same install in place.
Upgrades generally work perfectly with Debian if you follow the instructions, though it helps big time to not add non-core bits. This time I had one upsie from apt and one failure on my part. Both recovered without reinstalling.
What problem did you hit?
@drajt I got a screen saying, "Something went wrong" with a frowny face on it. I didn't even know where to start with diagnosing it--I'm still quite new--so I just reinstalled. I'm fairly adept at that part by now.
@OrionKidder that's most peculiar.
How did you do the upgrade?
Did you type the commands in from the release notes, or use some GUI thing?
Sometimes it does uninstall something you have to manually install again, and if you've heavily modified a configuration file then that can break the automatic upgrade, but I'm completely unfamiliar with what you described.
@drajt I did the thing I should know better than doing: I found one page with terminal instructions, and I followed them without a) corroborating them on multiple sources, and b) knowing what the hell most of the commands actually mean. It's really my own fault. I was over eager to upgrade. I'll do it better next time, and I have two years to prep.
Edit: next time I will just follow Debian's own instructions.
@OrionKidder What distro are you running? I run vanilla debian on my servers and just replaced `bookworm` with `trixie` in the apt source list and almost everything upgraded perfectly.
The one exceptions were machines I had installed Nvidia drivers manually rather than through apt. But that was fixable.
Granted, I haven't updated a desktop install, so maybe there is some fuckery with the compositors/desktops?
@wagesj45 I'm using Debian on a home computer. I'm starting to think I just followed bad instructions.
@OrionKidder Maybe. Or Maybe Not! Upgrading a server with hardly anything on it, and without even a desktop, is way less prone to error. I basically did it on easy mode.
Bluefin LTS has hit RC!
@jorge I'm keeping an eye on this!
I love the idea of immutable Centos + cockpit machines + ZFS for a sort of license-free homelab in a box. It's the sort of thing you could give to non-Linux folks and be confident in its reliability.
My $12 VPS in London is paid up for the next 11 months though…I’ll have to think what to use it for.
@sam ooh, which one? i'm looking for a new deal myself, although my current one is Frankfurt-based
That said despite the IPv4 and v6 addresses showing up as NL in every database I've checked. I am STILL getting a 403 from lgbtqia.space. I give up. Oh well fun evening project.
@sam @millihertz does the domain reverse to a .uk domain or something?
@penguin42 @sam @millihertz@oldbytes.space If the stupid law magically applies to people with no connection to the UK, then surely it might also apply to UK residents operating a server elsewhere. That would even make a little sense.
@penguin42 @sam i get the same result here. whereas if i flip back to my Frankfurt VPS, i can see lgbtqia.space just fine.
the irony is that DeluxHost isn't a UK-based company, whereas EthernetServers, who supply my Frankfurt VPS, is...
@mcp - are you aware that your geoblocking is being a bit overeager and blocking some Amsterdam-based IP addresses too?
@sam good luck! ...i'm considering the nuclear option - just turning IPv6 off at the server end. having had issues with IPv6 on a VPS before, i was surprised and delighted to find that you can do that from the DeluxHost control panel! and if it's just proxying / SOCKSying, then there's not much downside to IPv4-only
a less extreme alternative might be hardcoding lgbtqia.space to 195.201.202.11 in /etc/hosts - ed just tested this, and it worked for me.
@sam thanks! i'm now in possession (well, virtually) of a shiny new €7pa EPYC-based VPS myself
as regards your London one - does the supplier have any data centres in mainland Europe, and would they be willing to switch it? i found that EthernetServers were quite happy to flip me across to Frankfurt once a US-based VPS looked like a bad idea
@sam wait, who's offering €7/year VPS instances?! I'm curious the specs you get for that.
(Sincerely, a long time LowEndBox/LowEndTalk lurker 😉)
@sam Hi, may I ask who you chose?
@sam you can get a Debian VPS from OVH for €3.82+VAT with locations in France, Germany or Canada. They have other locations but not on the cheapest plan.
I've used them for hosting in France as a local endpoint for WireGuard to connect family computers in France and their stuff works fine. Their config tool is quite nice.
Not as friendly and personal as Mythical Beasts in the UK are, but competent.
@sam curious how this is saving you from the OSA, which applies everywhere that has UK users?
@sam That is a great deal! Who is your hosting provider if you don't mind saying.
@sam you use the London VPS as your entry point, so anyone looking sees UK-traffic and the Netherlands one as your entry point so you get the smut
I don't mind a detour for pointless shit.
What is it? Winner gets a cookie.
I’ve sent the admin an email to see if they would consider unblocking just the apis needed for federation. I’m not holding out much hope though.
> We have been forced to geo-block access from the United Kingdom to the lgbtqia.space services and community.
> This action is a direct result of the UK's Orwellian "Online Safety Act" a piece of legislation that, despite its name, is incredibly dangerous to online privacy and makes the internet absolutely not safe for marginalized communities and the volunteers who run services like this one.
> Our condolences on the loss of freedom of expression.
@neil if the servers are outside of the uk can action be taken against them or is this more risking individual users?
@neil I wonder how many subcultures / subreddits / online communities have silently given up and not bothered making a statement to criticize the government because the risk of being critical carries potential legal/criminal ramifications..
Fair play to them explaining it to their community and hopefully they can find a new home elsewhere, perhaps IRC? :P
I was worried this might start to happen.
Does this just mean that I will no longer see posts from that instance?
Can I get round it by using a VPN to make myself appear outside the UK?
@neil this is what they want. Is anybody surprised by this? Hope all those people who kicked off at me after the Ofcom Q&A sessions for being “too alarmist” about OSA are happy.
@neil Dammit I've lost a few people as well. Might be time to move most of my servers to a DC somewhere else.
@neil I know it's been asked/mentioned by others in the replies, but I am really struggling to see what the UK can do to a server hosted outside the UK by a non-UK citizen.
Also, some of us fediverse admins are not terribly worried about what they might try to do in retaliation for not bowing to their hideous laws. Granted, I am the only user of this instance, but if I were to get an influx of lgbtq+++ users on any of my instances, I cannot imagine a situation where I'd be geo-blocking any country - including the UK.
I'm lucky - I run my instances on infrastructure that the UK cannot do anything about: My "ISP" is not one that can be hoodwinked into cutting me off, I'm happy to abstain from travelling to the UK indefinitely if that's the price to pay, and I have no dependencies on that country, whatsoever.
Just sayin'. Probably helpful to no-one.
Jesus Christ.
I fear this is only going to get worse, especially here in the States too.
How did they even find us? 🤣
@neil Part of me wants the majrotiy of the web to geo block the UK in protest. That and have the porn habits of our MPs leaked online 👀
We’re trying to sell the place and I’m told piles of hoarded junk doesn’t help with that.
A lot of it is boxed up already but still feeling moderately stressed about it. Still need to shut down the lack rack…
Aurora August newsletter is now out
https://universal-blue.discourse.group/t/stargazers-2-aurora-august-update/10251/
After using #omarchy and #universalblue / #bluefin for a for a bit I kind of want omarchy on universal blue. Getting all the benefits of never having to update because of bootc and how universal blue does things pair with the omarchy setup would be awesome. It would also be nice if bluefin-dx had mise pre installed but that's minor thing. Mind you I'm coming at this from 10+ years of my own home grown Arch setup. Having omarchy x ublue can probably replace all of that on day one
@gozes you can install mize with `brew install mise`.
@gozes i don't see anything on this list that you can't already do (other than including themes, etc. which is out of scope for us). Am I missing something?
@jorge so for me is the whole hyperland and setup and how well it's all put together. Mind you I have my own setup that I been carrying around for 10-15 years but it's not as well put together and cohesive as omarchy. I think of omarchy as a starter kit similar to minimal vim/neovim ones, if you come across does, where on one side you have your own custom setup that been put together over years and starter kit that has most of not all of the same functionality of your custom setup but it's put together in a thoughtful way to make it easy to extend to fit your needs. Which means declaring bankruptcy on my own setup, bring my key maps over to the starter kit, and maybe adding one or two things is not that hard.
Or are you referring to just building a custom ublue image using the GHA temple you build? I have thought of that but haven't had a chance to fully give that a try yet. That said given all the arch assumptions made by omarchy porting it to ublue is not as straightforward. Just looking at the packages used in omarchy it looks like such an image will have to bring over a lot of stuff from the copr because a lot of things are not in silver blue main as far as I can tell.
All of that said I think ublue x omarchy, or an omarchy homage, would be an irresistible setup for any dev coming to Linux or even to someone like me who has been main Linux for 10+ years
@gozes Oh I mean the dev stuff not the OS image - all of the tools, etc. are in bluefin already afaict.
@jorge hmm so all that it's missing then is the hyperland and the few other DE related stuff, because last I looked maybe 6 months back, hyperland and related tools where in copr but not in Fedora main. If that has changed then having something like omarchy on top of ublue is more doable then I thought
@jorge yup that I know it's just so nice to have it there already specifically on the dx edition which is all about devs going from New machine to deploying code as soon as possible. TBH I don't know about mise until I tried omarchy and having had to fiddle with asdf or the language specific tool for this I don't think I want to go back to does when mise does it all :)
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(There is an open bug for this issue, but no one has looked at it in years.)