sam

@sam@cablespaghetti.dev

Father of two, husband, lover of dogs but owner of many cats. Runner. Technology enthusiast. Metalhead. AuADHDer. Cloudy DevOps type person. Formerly known as @sam@running.cafe

797 following, 733 followers

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[?]sam »
@sam@cablespaghetti.dev

Time for another blog post, about hosting a fediverse instance on my ancient Raspberry Pi. Obviously I had to share it on the fediverse.

https://cablespaghetti.dev/hosting-a-fediverse-instance-on-an-original-raspberry-pi.html


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    [?]Natanael Copa »
    @ncopa@fosstodon.org

    @sam this was fun!
    I spotted a typo: `apk install acme.sh`
    Should be `apk add…`.

    I also wonder if the periodic script actually runs with the .sh suffix? If my memory serves me correctly you may need to drop the .sh suffix or it will now run.

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      [?]sam »
      @sam@cablespaghetti.dev

      Thanks. Fixed! And it wasn't initially because I didn't put the shebang at the top of the file, but the .sh seems to not be an issue. It is diligently running at 2am every day.

        [?]Mitch Rose »
        @mrose@universeodon.com

        @sam

        amazing! well done!

          [?]jamesb (MW1CGG) »
          @jamesb@fedi.duckduckpigeon.co.uk

          @sam
          Can I send my replies back via a UUCP gateway?

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          [?]sam »
          @sam@cablespaghetti.dev

          @jamesb@duckduckpigeon.co.uk @sam Not a clue. Maybe. 🤷 😆

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            [?]sam »
            @sam@cablespaghetti.dev

            If you’re reading this you have been successfully migrated as a follower to my stupidly underpowered Raspberry Pi hosted instance. Let’s see how it does with nearly 700 followers. 😆

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              [?]sam »
              @sam@cablespaghetti.dev

              @justine@snac.smithies.me.uk that boost did not help my load situation. 😆 I may have some work to do for this to be properly stable.

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                [?]Justine Smithies »
                @justine@snac.smithies.me.uk

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                [?]sam »
                @sam@cablespaghetti.dev

                @justine@snac.smithies.me.uk It’s all fun! So far it is mostly not falling over. It takes a few minutes to get through sending my posts out to all the different servers though.

                  [?]Michael »
                  @mmeier@social.mei-home.net

                  @sam MUST - RESIST - URGE - TO - BOOST. 😁

                  Also, very inspired domain name for a Homelab. 😂

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                    [?]sam »
                    @sam@cablespaghetti.dev

                    @mmeier@social.mei-home.net @sam Thanks! Feel free, after the initial wobble during transfer of my followers it’s doing ok. 🙂 I’ll write up how I pulled it off over the next few evenings.

                      [?]Charlie O’Hara »
                      @awfulwoman@indieweb.social

                      I am very much against the AI industrial complex but my goodness it’s becoming an online purity test, isn’t it?

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                      [?]Charlie O’Hara »
                      @awfulwoman@indieweb.social

                      Just as most CEOs seem incapable of understanding what “AI” is and are blindly following it, there seems to be a contingent of Mastodon who are at the other end of the spectrum. AI is a marketing term at this point for anything that uses a model, and you’ve been using such things for years before you heard of ChatGPT…

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                      [?]Charlie O’Hara »
                      @awfulwoman@indieweb.social

                      Fight the actual issues that hurt us. There’s no need to go on a frothing rant just because you saw the acronym ”AI”.

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                      [?]Jan Lehnardt :couchdb: »
                      @janl@narrativ.es

                      @awfulwoman why can’t people just be judgy in silence like normal people?

                        [?]Charlie O’Hara »
                        @awfulwoman@indieweb.social

                        For the record this is not me coming out as some AI stan. I hate *all* computing technology equally and would like to live in a cabin in the wilderness.

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                        [?]sam »
                        @sam@cablespaghetti.dev

                        @awfulwoman@indieweb.social This is a message I can get behind…I’ve just spent a week in basically a cabin in the woods and not opened a laptop. I would really quite like this to be a permanent arrangement.

                          [?]Sally Lait »
                          @sally@mastodon.social

                          @awfulwoman My work over the last couple of years has had a heavy ML component to it, and genuinely it has been such an important and valuable aspect that we couldn't have done without. I've felt a bit similarly - I'm no blanket AI stan, but with use cases like trust and safety where protecting real people from seeing awful stuff where possible is a big concern / speed and scale of response being much larger than is practical for humans, I get a bit frustrated when people think it's all chatgpt

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                            [?]Charlie O’Hara »
                            @awfulwoman@indieweb.social

                            @sally bingo. Sorry that you gotta wade through that!

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                              [?]Sally Lait »
                              @sally@mastodon.social

                              @awfulwoman Less of an issue on gardening leave for sure 😆🤷🏻‍♀️

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                                [?]Charlie O’Hara »
                                @awfulwoman@indieweb.social

                                @sally ah fuck I hadn’t seen your earlier posts. Sorry babe. :( But you’re gonna land something good. ❤️

                                  [?]Joe Ressington »
                                  @joeress@mastodon.social

                                  @awfulwoman ackchually "AI" is an initialism, not an acronym. Do better.

                                  ackchyually guy meme

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                                    [?]Charlie O’Hara »
                                    @awfulwoman@indieweb.social

                                    @joeress I just asked ChatGPT what to make of that all it said was NERRRDDDD.

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                                      @SupportTeam2@mas.to

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                                        [?]Raph V. »
                                        @raph_v@mstdn.social

                                        @awfulwoman it's particularly visible in my domain (education) and somehow I'm ending up being grouped with the AI side just because I think demanding "AI abstinence" from students is stupid, patronising and counterproductive.

                                          [?]Adrian Egger »
                                          @adrian@mastodon.design

                                          @awfulwoman I can’t wait for the stupid bubble to pop and we can sensibly talk about the use for LLMs again with all the hype train bullshit.

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                                            [?]Jorge Castro »
                                            @jorge@hachyderm.io

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                                            [?]Prof. Sam Lawler »
                                            @sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                            Good morning

                                            (It is currently part of the morning routine for the little horse to wait for the goats in that one spot where it's easy for the goats to climb on him, then he happily accepts back massages)

                                            A small brown horse, with a small brown goat standing on his back, while gently head butting a small black goat who's standing on an old hay bale next to the horse.  They're in a muddy farm yard surrounded by a tall wooden fence.  The sky above is hazy.

                                            Alt...A small brown horse, with a small brown goat standing on his back, while gently head butting a small black goat who's standing on an old hay bale next to the horse. They're in a muddy farm yard surrounded by a tall wooden fence. The sky above is hazy.

                                            Several goats of various colours and one tall fuzzy brown llama standing in a very overgrown grassy area surrounded by scrubby trees, happily chowing down on all the plants they can reach.  The sky above is hazy.

                                            Alt...Several goats of various colours and one tall fuzzy brown llama standing in a very overgrown grassy area surrounded by scrubby trees, happily chowing down on all the plants they can reach. The sky above is hazy.

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                                            [?]Eye »
                                            @grb090423@mastodon.social

                                            @sundogplanets

                                            It's good to see them all. Brightens my day 🤗👍

                                              [?]LaDonna »
                                              @ldmay65@universeodon.com

                                              @sundogplanets
                                              Such a nice relationship they have.
                                              Good morning!

                                                [?]Kobold »
                                                @kobold@social.troll.academy

                                                @sundogplanets I saw goats using horses as a platform to jump across their fence. The owner was not happy collecting goats in the streets.

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                                                  [?]Prof. Sam Lawler »
                                                  @sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                                  @kobold So far my goats haven't escaped from the horse, but they're probably already scheming about that...

                                                    [?]Salzlakritz »
                                                    @papperlapapp@bonn.social

                                                    @sundogplanets I love that so much! 😍

                                                      [?]NoBorg »
                                                      @hadon@mastodon.social

                                                      @sundogplanets
                                                      The little horse is not the only one getting relaxed, me too by watching the scene. Thanks for sharing it! ;)

                                                        [?]Lisa J. Warner / Lisa Luv »
                                                        @LisaWarnerLisaLuv@mastodon.social

                                                        @sundogplanets

                                                        🤗🐐🐐🐐🐴🐎🐴🐎❤️🤍💜🫂💛💚💙💗🩵🩷🧡🐐🐴🐎🤗*Good Morning!*& Happy Friday!*& I love the picture!*& I adore goats!*I wish you a Wonderful Day!🤗🐐🐴🐎❤️🤍💜💛💚💙🫂💙💗🩵🩷🧡🐐🐴🐎🤗

                                                          [?]Prof. Sam Lawler »
                                                          @sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                                          This morning there was actually a line of teenage goats waiting to climb up on the horse and give him a massage. (One goat just couldn't wait and tried to climb on another goat instead, doesn't work as well.)

                                                          A small brown horse patiently standing while a light brown goat stands triumphantly on his back.  A grey goat waits patiently for her turn while a black goat tries to climb on top of the grey goat.  They're all standing in a muddy farmyard surrounded by a tall wooden fence.  The sky above is blue.

                                                          Alt...A small brown horse patiently standing while a light brown goat stands triumphantly on his back. A grey goat waits patiently for her turn while a black goat tries to climb on top of the grey goat. They're all standing in a muddy farmyard surrounded by a tall wooden fence. The sky above is blue.

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                                                          [?]helplessduck »
                                                          @helplessduck@beige.party

                                                          @sundogplanets

                                                          Why does one goat get to wear a necklace?

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                                                            [?]Prof. Sam Lawler »
                                                            @sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                                            @helplessduck The keepers get necklaces (collars). The ones I'm trying to sell don't (though I think I'm actually going to keep the grey one as well. So she needs a necklace too!)

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                                                              [?]helplessduck »
                                                              @helplessduck@beige.party

                                                              @sundogplanets

                                                              Aw. Yay! The grey one is really pretty.
                                                              (This whole scene is just delightful, by the by.)

                                                                [?]t s r o n o »
                                                                @tsrono@mastodon.social

                                                                @sundogplanets so jealous of your horse. i've tried to train one of my cats to do the walking on my back thing but she's not very interested in it; she's no goat that's for certain.

                                                                  [?]noplasticshower »
                                                                  @noplasticshower@infosec.exchange

                                                                  @sundogplanets also scope potential escape via leap

                                                                    [?]Dr. Eric J. Fielding, PhD »
                                                                    @EricFielding@mastodon.social

                                                                    @sundogplanets Probably you heard about goat yoga. I was wondering how they got goats to jump on people doing yoga, but it seems they love to do it

                                                                      [?]Stuart :progress_pride: »
                                                                      @slowe@mastodon.me.uk

                                                                      I always enjoy looking at public display screens when they've crashed.

                                                                      A person-sized outdoor display screen showing a Windows error message and the desktop. There's also a terminal window showing various python errors that seem to be about loading a XML document and load/get/request/send functions. The final error is about a failed connection to lite.realtime.nationalrail.co.uk

                                                                      Alt...A person-sized outdoor display screen showing a Windows error message and the desktop. There's also a terminal window showing various python errors that seem to be about loading a XML document and load/get/request/send functions. The final error is about a failed connection to lite.realtime.nationalrail.co.uk

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                                                                      [?]Stuart :progress_pride: »
                                                                      @slowe@mastodon.me.uk

                                                                      BusNet is like SkyNet but there's a strong chance you'll have to wait for a replacement Terminator that may get cancelled anyway.

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                                                                      [?]scmbradley »
                                                                      @Scmbradley@mathstodon.xyz

                                                                      @slowe you wait all day for a terminator and then three come along at once!

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                                                                        [?]sam »
                                                                        @sam@cablespaghetti.dev

                                                                        @slowe@mastodon.me.uk Hah! Me too. The Windows installs on the buses at Amsterdam Schiphol Airport are almost always out of disk space or blue screened or something when I go through there. Can’t find a photo though.

                                                                        I feel like this needs a hashtag. There must be more crashed public computer enjoyers out there…

                                                                          [?]Stuart :progress_pride: »
                                                                          @slowe@mastodon.me.uk

                                                                          BusNet would like to apologise for any inconvenience caused by interruption to the Terminator service. This has been due to a previously delayed Terminator and signalling issues at Crewe.

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                                                                          [?]Will Deakin »
                                                                          @wnd@fosstodon.org

                                                                          @slowe I await TrainNet but it is currently operating as a BusNet replacement service

                                                                            [?]jack »
                                                                            @jackeric@beige.party

                                                                            @slowe it is mandatory to report all such sightings to @kevlin
                                                                            youtube.com/watch?v=odlWJEfTGN

                                                                              [?]jamesb (MW1CGG) »
                                                                              @jamesb@fedi.duckduckpigeon.co.uk

                                                                              While I drag this "why the bloody hell is his thing so heavy?" desktop on the bus I am pondering some important life questions.

                                                                              Is there a lethal oral dose of mozzarella?

                                                                              In related notes the garden is currently at the stage of too many tomatoes.

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                                                                              [?]sam »
                                                                              @sam@cablespaghetti.dev

                                                                              @jamesb@fedi.duckduckpigeon.co.uk On the first note, I had to do scrolling to find the context on why you have a desktop on a bus. Work supplied Windows machine or something more interesting?

                                                                              On the second, I’m currently in Italy and mozzarella is plentiful and cheap. I’m making a good go of finding out the answer and will let you know (or I suppose I won’t if the answer is yes).

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                                                                                [?]jamesb (MW1CGG) »
                                                                                @jamesb@fedi.duckduckpigeon.co.uk

                                                                                @sam
                                                                                Just your bog standard reasonable spec Dell Windows work box.

                                                                                Where in Italy are you?

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                                                                                [?]sam »
                                                                                @sam@cablespaghetti.dev

                                                                                @jamesb@duckduckpigeon.co.uk @sam Fiano Romano. About 40 minutes North of Rome. We’re in a Eurocamp static caravan thing on a site with pools and stuff for the kids to play in. Done a couple of day trips into Rome to do the standard touristy things.

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                                                                                  [?]jamesb (MW1CGG) »
                                                                                  @jamesb@fedi.duckduckpigeon.co.uk

                                                                                  @sam
                                                                                  Nice. I used to love Eurocamp (et al) type places as a kid/teenager. I keep thinking about doing one again. Probably south France.

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                                                                                  [?]sam »
                                                                                  @sam@cablespaghetti.dev

                                                                                  @jamesb@duckduckpigeon.co.uk My ginger wife is not enjoying the Italian summer heat. We’ll probably do somewhere a little cooler like France (although likely not south) next year.

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                                                                                    [?]jamesb (MW1CGG) »
                                                                                    @jamesb@fedi.duckduckpigeon.co.uk

                                                                                    @sam
                                                                                    Le Vieux Port was probably my favourite one we went to. Great as a younger kid and as a 16 year old who spent most of the time getting pissed with other people I met. Messanges is quite a nice little town to walk into as well.

                                                                                    I also did that most momentous act that a teenager can do on the beach there. Her name was Katie and she was from Chiswick.

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                                                                                    [?]sam »
                                                                                    @sam@cablespaghetti.dev

                                                                                    @jamesb@duckduckpigeon.co.uk Good tip. My kids are considerably younger but I will look into it. You were clearly an absolute player at 16. I cannot relate.😆

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                                                                                      [?]jamesb (MW1CGG) »
                                                                                      @jamesb@fedi.duckduckpigeon.co.uk

                                                                                      @sam
                                                                                      It's a shame my 16 year old abroad confidence never got imported back to Britain 😂

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                                                                                      [?]Nivex 🐧 📻 »
                                                                                      @nivex@tenforward.social

                                                                                      Watching the premier of the Python documentary ( youtube.com/watch?v=GfH4QL4VqJ0 ). Reminded how the Python 2 -> 3 transition has a lot of parallels to the IPv4 -> transition.

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                                                                                        [?]cablespaghetti »
                                                                                        @cablespaghetti@bookrastinating.com

                                                                                        Review of "A Psalm for the Wild-Built" (5 stars): A book I didn’t realise I needed to read

                                                                                        I’ve had this book on my “To Read” list for about four years, since reading the Wayfarers series back to back.

                                                                                        I put it off because frankly £10 for an ebook copy of a 150 novella is expensive and I was hoping it would get cheaper at some point.

                                                                                        Anyway, I’m at a point in my life where I’ve got a high pressure job, two demanding boys, a wife to keep happy and bills to pay. Frankly it all gets a bit much at times and I do find myself questioning the purpose of it all.

                                                                                        Honestly maybe I need to find religion, but in the absence of that this book is pretty bloody relatable to me right now. I will definitely be recommending it to others as a thought provoking quick read.

                                                                                        Becky Chambers: A Psalm for the Wild-Built (Hardcover, 2021, Tordotcom)

                                                                                        Alt...Becky Chambers: A Psalm for the Wild-Built (Hardcover, 2021, Tordotcom)

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                                                                                        [?]Thomas Schäfer »
                                                                                        @tschaefer@ipv6.social

                                                                                        AWS Client VPN now supports connectivity to IPv6 resources
                                                                                        Posted on: Aug 26, 2025
                                                                                        aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats

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                                                                                          [?]dave »
                                                                                          @hologram@cyberplace.social

                                                                                          @tschaefer That's too bad. They will only make trouble. But thanks for the warning.

                                                                                            [?]jamesb (MW1CGG) »
                                                                                            @jamesb@fedi.duckduckpigeon.co.uk

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                                                                                            Online Safety Act going well then (from Reddit r/LegalAdviceUK)

                                                                                            I was a victim of SA years ago and it caused me to want to watch non-con adult videos. Simulated ones with actresses and actors, not real.

I had to verify my identity for the new internet safety act as I couldn't watch the videos without them. The website asked for my driver's licence or passport. So I used one of those to verify my age. Now I'm being blackmailed with my full real identiy and address known.

The videos I watched are apparently illegal under the The Criminal Justice and Courts Act 2015 and the Criminal Justice and Immigration Act 2008.

                                                                                            Alt...I was a victim of SA years ago and it caused me to want to watch non-con adult videos. Simulated ones with actresses and actors, not real. I had to verify my identity for the new internet safety act as I couldn't watch the videos without them. The website asked for my driver's licence or passport. So I used one of those to verify my age. Now I'm being blackmailed with my full real identiy and address known. The videos I watched are apparently illegal under the The Criminal Justice and Courts Act 2015 and the Criminal Justice and Immigration Act 2008.

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                                                                                            [?]sam »
                                                                                            @sam@cablespaghetti.dev

                                                                                            @jamesb@duckduckpigeon.co.uk I can’t say I didn’t see it coming but this is all kinds of fucked up… ☹️

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                                                                                              [?]decryption »
                                                                                              @decryption@aus.social

                                                                                              Tim Berners-Lee wrote this in 1999. 26 years later: justice.gov/opa/pr/department-

                                                                                              But consider what could happen in a year or two when search engines get smarter. I click the Search button on my keyboard, or tell a search engine, 'I want to buy a pair of shoes.' It supposedly heads out on to the Web to find shoe stores, but in fact brings me only to those shoe stores that have deals with that search engine or hardware company. The same with booksellers. Insurers. News. And so on. My choice of stores and services has thus been limited by the company that sells the computer or runs the search service. It's like having a car with a Go Shopping for Shoes button on the dashboard; when pushed, it will drive only to the shoe store that has a deal with the carmaker. This doesn't help me get the best pair of shoes for the lowest price, it doesn't help the free market, and it doesn't help democracy.

                                                                                              Alt...But consider what could happen in a year or two when search engines get smarter. I click the Search button on my keyboard, or tell a search engine, 'I want to buy a pair of shoes.' It supposedly heads out on to the Web to find shoe stores, but in fact brings me only to those shoe stores that have deals with that search engine or hardware company. The same with booksellers. Insurers. News. And so on. My choice of stores and services has thus been limited by the company that sells the computer or runs the search service. It's like having a car with a Go Shopping for Shoes button on the dashboard; when pushed, it will drive only to the shoe store that has a deal with the carmaker. This doesn't help me get the best pair of shoes for the lowest price, it doesn't help the free market, and it doesn't help democracy.

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                                                                                              [?]R.L. Dane :Debian: :OpenBSD: 🍵 :MiraLovesYou: »
                                                                                              @rl_dane@polymaths.social

                                                                                              I remember reading a comment 10-20 years ago that said something to the effect of, "The Star Trek holodeck would be humanity's last invention."

                                                                                              There's nothing more potently addictive than a room that can conjure up every conceivable place, person, thing, whim, or desire.

                                                                                              I think what we're seeing with "AI" is a kind of "dialectical holodeck," where people enter in, wrap themselves up in a fantasy world created by a twisted algorithm designed to satisfy the user's curiosity and cater to their every verbal whim, and think it's their greatest reality.

                                                                                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ChatGPT_psychosis

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                                                                                              [?]Cobweb, Brahmi Punctuation Lotus »
                                                                                              @cobweb@corteximplant.com

                                                                                              @rl_dane oh shit it’s Barclay Syndrome

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                                                                                                [?]Alaric Snell-Pym »
                                                                                                @kitten_tech@fosstodon.org

                                                                                                @rl_dane I used to predict that LLM companies were a bubble that would pop when it became clear their products were basically at their peak performance rather than just an early taste of great things yet to come, and that usage would disappear once they had to charge the actual running costs of the things - but I'm beginning to fear their actual product-market fit is as a kind of addiction, a comforting voice that says what you want to hear, and that enough people will pay for that...

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                                                                                                  [?]Patrick Georgi »
                                                                                                  @patrick@retro.social

                                                                                                  @kitten_tech @rl_dane These "businesses" still make no money. At some point they'll have to increase prices to get back the investment and eventually even make a profit.
                                                                                                  That's the point where things will become interesting: are people willing to pay any amount of money to have a virtual yes-man in their lives or is there a breaking point?

                                                                                                    [?]nfilipes »
                                                                                                    @nfilipes@fosstodon.org

                                                                                                    @kitten_tech @rl_dane isn't this the business model of Instagram or tiktok?

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                                                                                                      [?]R.L. Dane :Debian: :OpenBSD: 🍵 :MiraLovesYou: »
                                                                                                      @rl_dane@polymaths.social

                                                                                                      @nfilipes @kitten_tech

                                                                                                      Yeah, some kind of addiction is always on the enshittification bandwagon.

                                                                                                      But with social networks, they also hold your friends, family, and social life hostage to keep you on the benighted platform.

                                                                                                        [?]Phil Ashby :marmite: 🍵 »
                                                                                                        @phlash@mastodon.me.uk

                                                                                                        @rl_dane Oddly enough - this was my reasoning in a random poll yesterday...

                                                                                                        mastodon.me.uk/@phlash/1150808

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                                                                                                          [?]R.L. Dane :Debian: :OpenBSD: 🍵 :MiraLovesYou: »
                                                                                                          @rl_dane@polymaths.social

                                                                                                          @phlash

                                                                                                          Well said! Yes, those who are that delusional should just walk off into delusion and let those who actually care run things. XD

                                                                                                          [?]DHeadshot's Alt »
                                                                                                          @ddlyh@topspicy.social

                                                                                                          @rl_dane I remember that article, BTW!

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                                                                                                            [?]R.L. Dane :Debian: :OpenBSD: 🍵 :MiraLovesYou: »
                                                                                                            @rl_dane@polymaths.social

                                                                                                            @ddlyh

                                                                                                            Really? When/where/what was it? I don't remember anything more than the premise of the headline. XD

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                                                                                                            [?]DHeadshot's Alt »
                                                                                                            @ddlyh@topspicy.social

                                                                                                            @rl_dane I think it was one of those "Listicle" articles that was popular circa 2011?

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                                                                                                              [?]R.L. Dane :Debian: :OpenBSD: 🍵 :MiraLovesYou: »
                                                                                                              @rl_dane@polymaths.social

                                                                                                              @ddlyh

                                                                                                              Huh, I think I either missed that trend, or didn't know the name. ;)

                                                                                                              But I wouldn't be surprised to learn that many people made that same observation (the holodeck being humanity's last invention) over the years.

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                                                                                                              [?]The Oatmeal »
                                                                                                              @oatmeal@mastodon.social

                                                                                                              Hello Kitty

                                                                                                              An elected official stands on a podium in front of a huge crowd and says we’ve done it we’ve achieved world peace. “And every single person on earth is happy. The crowd cheers then the announcer says one more thing “one other quick announcement the owner of the hello Kitty IP recently stated that hello Kitty is not actually a cat. She’s a human girl who simply looks like a cat“the crowd is silent for moment, then irrupt into a total bloodbath of cartage, screaming, fighting and mayhem.

                                                                                                              Alt...An elected official stands on a podium in front of a huge crowd and says we’ve done it we’ve achieved world peace. “And every single person on earth is happy. The crowd cheers then the announcer says one more thing “one other quick announcement the owner of the hello Kitty IP recently stated that hello Kitty is not actually a cat. She’s a human girl who simply looks like a cat“the crowd is silent for moment, then irrupt into a total bloodbath of cartage, screaming, fighting and mayhem.

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                                                                                                              [?]Daniele Polencic »
                                                                                                              @danielepolencic@hachyderm.io

                                                                                                              🗣️ "I notice a lot of 5xx errors from the application during scale-in of the pods after a spike period."

                                                                                                              I was asked this question last week and spent some time debugging the issue. In the process, I realized there is confusion about how Kubernetes does (not do) graceful shutdown.

                                                                                                              So, I decided to rewrite our article on graceful shutdown and augment it with some knowledge I gained during the years!

                                                                                                              You can find the full article here: learnk8s.io/graceful-shutdown

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                                                                                                              [?]sam »
                                                                                                              @sam@cablespaghetti.dev

                                                                                                              @nuintari@mastodon.bsd.cafe Sounds great. 🙂 The people at a job make all the difference.

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                                                                                                                [?]sam »
                                                                                                                @sam@cablespaghetti.dev

                                                                                                                @nuintari@bsd.cafe So glad to hear things are looking up for you. Sounds like you’ve had a pretty shit run of employment.

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                                                                                                                  [?]sam »
                                                                                                                  @sam@cablespaghetti.dev

                                                                                                                  I scored 15/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.

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                                                                                                                  [?]sam »
                                                                                                                  @sam@cablespaghetti.dev

                                                                                                                  I just want websites to reliably accept my email addresses on a .world domain as valid. 😭

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                                                                                                                    [?]Gary Parker :party_porg: »
                                                                                                                    @WiteWulf@cyberplace.social

                                                                                                                    @sam speaking as the owner of the .osx.ninja domain, I wholeheartedly agree ☹️

                                                                                                                      [?]jamesb (MW1CGG) »
                                                                                                                      @jamesb@fedi.duckduckpigeon.co.uk

                                                                                                                      @sam
                                                                                                                      I just want O2 to accept my perfectly valid not weird e-mail address - it's like a@bcde.co.uk - they refuse to accept one character local parts.

                                                                                                                      Actually I don't care now, I'm no longer a customer.

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                                                                                                                      [?]sam »
                                                                                                                      @sam@cablespaghetti.dev

                                                                                                                      @jamesb@duckduckpigeon.co.uk It saddens me how major companies get things like this wrong. I think the most recent one I had an issue with was Argos.

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                                                                                                                        [?]jamesb (MW1CGG) »
                                                                                                                        @jamesb@fedi.duckduckpigeon.co.uk

                                                                                                                        @sam
                                                                                                                        I know grandparents younger than my e-mail address. It shouldn't be this bad still.

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                                                                                                                        [?]Drew Kadel »
                                                                                                                        @DrewKadel@social.coop

                                                                                                                        My daughter, who has had a degree in computer science for 25 years, posted this observation about ChatGPT on Facebook. It's the best description I've seen:

                                                                                                                        Something that seems fundamental to me about ChatGPT, which gets lost over and over again:  
When you enter text into it, you're asking "What would a response to this sound like?"
If you put in a scientific question, and it comes back with a response citing a non-existent paper with a plausible title, using a real journal name and an author name who's written things related to your question, it's not being tricky or telling lies or doing anything at all surprising!  This is what a response to that question would sound like!  It did the thing!
But people keep wanting the "say something that sounds like an answer" machine to be doing something else, and believing it *is* doing something else.  
It's good at generating things that sound like responses to being told it was wrong, so people think that it's engaging in introspection or looking up more information or something, but it's not, it's only, ever, saying something that sounds like the next bit of the conversation.

                                                                                                                        Alt...Something that seems fundamental to me about ChatGPT, which gets lost over and over again: When you enter text into it, you're asking "What would a response to this sound like?" If you put in a scientific question, and it comes back with a response citing a non-existent paper with a plausible title, using a real journal name and an author name who's written things related to your question, it's not being tricky or telling lies or doing anything at all surprising! This is what a response to that question would sound like! It did the thing! But people keep wanting the "say something that sounds like an answer" machine to be doing something else, and believing it *is* doing something else. It's good at generating things that sound like responses to being told it was wrong, so people think that it's engaging in introspection or looking up more information or something, but it's not, it's only, ever, saying something that sounds like the next bit of the conversation.

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                                                                                                                        [?]Sam Rose »
                                                                                                                        @samwho@hachyderm.io

                                                                                                                        Email addresses are very simple, and you will score highly in this quiz.

                                                                                                                        e-mail.wtf

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                                                                                                                        [?]mbpaz »
                                                                                                                        @mbpaz@mas.to

                                                                                                                        @samwho as someone who once wrote an entire sendmail.cf from scratch - without m4 - I feel utterly ashamed to have scored 11/21.

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                                                                                                                          [?]sam »
                                                                                                                          @sam@cablespaghetti.dev

                                                                                                                          @samwho@hachyderm.io @siosm@floss.social My wife asked why I was laughing out loud so much. Saying “email addresses” didn’t really satisfy her as an answer.

                                                                                                                            [?]trusty falxter 🧠:natenomblack: »
                                                                                                                            @flxtr@social.tchncs.de

                                                                                                                            @samwho Scored 16/21. That's better than I had expected. 🤷

                                                                                                                              [?]grob 🇺🇦:intersexprogresspride: »
                                                                                                                              @grob@mstdn.social

                                                                                                                              @samwho abomination@horrible.cursed

                                                                                                                              and @north will probably like it :blobcatgiggle:

                                                                                                                                [?]LadyLuck1980 »
                                                                                                                                @LadyLuck1980@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                @samwho

                                                                                                                                I scored 18/21 on e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.
                                                                                                                                (But I have a slight advantage being a network engineer.)

                                                                                                                                  [?]fuzzle @ cccfr »
                                                                                                                                  @fuzzle@chaos.social

                                                                                                                                  @samwho now i want ":(){:|:&};:"@irgendwo.de as email adress

                                                                                                                                    [?]Ozzelot »
                                                                                                                                    @ozzelot@mstdn.social

                                                                                                                                    @samwho I have scored averagely, says the thing

                                                                                                                                      [?]Semitones »
                                                                                                                                      @semitones@tiny.tilde.website

                                                                                                                                      @samwho for some reason, Ironfox really didn't like this site, but I did! 16/21 on Firefox!

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                                                                                                                                        [?]Sam Rose »
                                                                                                                                        @samwho@hachyderm.io

                                                                                                                                        @semitones Likely because it's a new domain. A few of the DNS privacy/security services don't like that (and rightly so), but I am impatient and don't plan ahead.

                                                                                                                                          [?]Lars Immisch »
                                                                                                                                          @la23ng@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                          @samwho No UUCP bang paths?

                                                                                                                                            [?]gabriel »
                                                                                                                                            @gabriel@col.social

                                                                                                                                            @samwho

                                                                                                                                            I scored 12/21 on e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.

                                                                                                                                              [?]Nicolewd :boost_ok: »
                                                                                                                                              @nicolewd@girlcock.club

                                                                                                                                              @samwho
                                                                                                                                              16/21 .. that's ok for a cursed test..

                                                                                                                                                [?]EndlessMason »
                                                                                                                                                @EndlessMason@hachyderm.io

                                                                                                                                                @samwho It costs less dev time to just send mail to invalid addresses, anybody who doesn't get their confirmation link simply can't confirm their address... it's win/win

                                                                                                                                                  [?]0x150 »
                                                                                                                                                  @0x150@chaos.social

                                                                                                                                                  @samwho I scored 12/21 on e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.

                                                                                                                                                  better than expected!

                                                                                                                                                    [?]Wilson »
                                                                                                                                                    @wilson@nfld.me

                                                                                                                                                    @samwho I scored 13/21 on e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.

                                                                                                                                                      [?]R.L. Dane :Debian: :OpenBSD: 🍵 :MiraLovesYou: »
                                                                                                                                                      @rl_dane@polymaths.social

                                                                                                                                                      @samwho @ianthetechie

                                                                                                                                                      I scored 10/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.

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                                                                                                                                                        [?]Ian Wagner »
                                                                                                                                                        @ianthetechie@fosstodon.org

                                                                                                                                                        @rl_dane @samwho I only did one better 😂 still better than my score on the similar JS quiz 😂

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                                                                                                                                                          [?]R.L. Dane :Debian: :OpenBSD: 🍵 :MiraLovesYou: »
                                                                                                                                                          @rl_dane@polymaths.social

                                                                                                                                                          @ianthetechie @samwho

                                                                                                                                                          I wouldn't even try a JS quiz. That language is truly cursed.

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                                                                                                                                                            [?]Ian Wagner »
                                                                                                                                                            @ianthetechie@fosstodon.org

                                                                                                                                                            @rl_dane @samwho Obviously... which is why the quiz is so hilarious. I've watched the infamous "wat" lightning talk (still the best lightning talk of all time IMO: destroyallsoftware.com/talks/w), and I still utterly failed :P

                                                                                                                                                            jsdate.wtf/

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                                                                                                                                                              [?]R.L. Dane :Debian: :OpenBSD: 🍵 :MiraLovesYou: »
                                                                                                                                                              @rl_dane@polymaths.social

                                                                                                                                                              @ianthetechie @samwho

                                                                                                                                                              Okay, that wat presentation was pretty freaking fantastic.

                                                                                                                                                                [?]Thomas Sturm »
                                                                                                                                                                @tsturm@famichiki.jp

                                                                                                                                                                @samwho "I scored 12/21 on e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media."

                                                                                                                                                                  [?]secretspecter 🚲:fennel: »
                                                                                                                                                                  @specter@eattherich.club

                                                                                                                                                                  @samwho
                                                                                                                                                                  Should be mandatory study for everyone that does form validation

                                                                                                                                                                    [?]RCSM »
                                                                                                                                                                    @RCSM@hometech.social

                                                                                                                                                                    @samwho I find it very interesting how much is allowed in an email address. Why? Maybe they had some idea to expand the uses back in the day (kinda like show a URL became an I striction set for http replies in API), but it never materialized?

                                                                                                                                                                      [?]DHeadshot's Alt »
                                                                                                                                                                      @ddlyh@topspicy.social

                                                                                                                                                                      @samwho
                                                                                                                                                                      "I scored 14/21 on e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media."

                                                                                                                                                                        [?]DaveB »
                                                                                                                                                                        @daveburb@mastodon.au

                                                                                                                                                                        @samwho
                                                                                                                                                                        I scored 13/21 on e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.

                                                                                                                                                                          [?]Person Who Exists »
                                                                                                                                                                          @PersonWhoExists@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                          @samwho no wonder all those email regex’s are so complex
                                                                                                                                                                          15/21

                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Caroline Bell :QueerCat_Trans: »
                                                                                                                                                                            @halotroop2288@techhub.social

                                                                                                                                                                            @samwho
                                                                                                                                                                            I scored 15/21 on e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.

                                                                                                                                                                              [?]Jason123santa »
                                                                                                                                                                              @jason123santa@fosstodon.org

                                                                                                                                                                              @samwho I scored 12/21 on e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.

                                                                                                                                                                                [?]phil »
                                                                                                                                                                                @bieberium@infosec.exchange

                                                                                                                                                                                @samwho Having suffered through the audio quality of this genius talk youtu.be/xxX81WmXjPg, I felt prepared and knew some of the pitfalls. 16/21

                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]tom™ ⋮🦎⋮ :blobcatcoffee: ⋮🐉⋮ »
                                                                                                                                                                                  @lulawab@norden.social

                                                                                                                                                                                  @samwho I scored 10/21 on e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.

                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]Vincent-Xavier ⏚ »
                                                                                                                                                                                    @vincentxavier@pouet.chapril.org

                                                                                                                                                                                    @samwho I scored 14/21 on e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.

                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]🇵🇸 servisoficial 🇲🇽🇷🇺 »
                                                                                                                                                                                      @servisoficial@social.linux.pizza

                                                                                                                                                                                      @samwho I scored 15/21 on e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.

                                                                                                                                                                                      😔

                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]IamJoosy »
                                                                                                                                                                                        @Joosy@dresden.network

                                                                                                                                                                                        @samwho I scored 11/21 on e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.

                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]Boozook 🦀 :playdate: »
                                                                                                                                                                                          @boozook@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                                                                                                                                                                          @samwho 20/21, forgot about “The spaces get ignored by the spec”. 🤦🏻‍♂️

                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Marcus Bointon »
                                                                                                                                                                                            @Synchro@phpc.social

                                                                                                                                                                                            @samwho I was going to mention the gmail dots thing, but someone else did, but I will mention an entertaining edge case it doesn’t mention is that in quoted local parts *it’s valid to have line breaks*😱

                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]ScriptFanix💍⏚ ⸫ »
                                                                                                                                                                                              @ScriptFanix@maly.io

                                                                                                                                                                                              @samwho Damn some of these arte really weird...

                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]jonitoni »
                                                                                                                                                                                                @jonitoni@kirche.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                @samwho Why are you doing this to me

                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]martenson »
                                                                                                                                                                                                  @martenson@mastodon.world

                                                                                                                                                                                                  @samwho I don't think domain example.com delivers mail ;P

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]Tim Chase »
                                                                                                                                                                                                    @gumnos@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                                                                                                                                                                                    @martenson @samwho

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Part of my trouble with the quiz is the conflict between what defines a valid RFC822/RFC2822 address (which is pretty broad) and what is allowed as part of an SMTP address (a lot more restricted, demanding FQDNs or IPv4/IPv6 addresses on the right). Additionally, there's whether there's deliverability…while example.com does resolve with A and AAAA records, there's no mailserver there. Similarly, does this produce a "valid" email address?

                                                                                                                                                                                                    $ LANG=C tr -cd 'a-z' < /dev/random | fold -50 | awk '{print "user@"$0".com"; exit}'
                                                                                                                                                                                                    user@ohejwliirfidowqfouoghbopglncsjmydmbzrxlwuzlcsisejy.com

                                                                                                                                                                                                    I mean, it's technically a valid email address, but with 26⁵⁰ possible domain-names, it's highly unlikely to actually exist/resolve for deliverable mail. ☺

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]Sam Rose »
                                                                                                                                                                                                      @samwho@hachyderm.io

                                                                                                                                                                                                      @gumnos @martenson "Technically valid" is my jam.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]Schrank :shopware: 🐘 »
                                                                                                                                                                                                        @Schrank@phpc.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                        And I thought I know email. Cc @heiglandreas

                                                                                                                                                                                                        I scored 14/21 on e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        @samwho

                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]P.McNewHold :flagPiratbyraan: »
                                                                                                                                                                                                          @poorpocketsmcnewhold@mamot.fr

                                                                                                                                                                                                          @samwho I scored 13/21 on e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.

                                                                                                                                                                                                          Really great quiz! And, learnt a lot about it too.

                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]betalars :antifa: @ GAMESCOM »
                                                                                                                                                                                                            @betalars@chaos.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                            @samwho okay i'll admit i got 12 in my first try (i would have gotten 14 if i trusted my gut more) and then did a second attempt with 20/21 and a third attempt with everything right and then this one ... I mainly wanted to know the response I'd get off if i had everything wrong.

                                                                                                                                                                                                            Screenshot with text: 
Results are in! Zero out of twenty one. 
This is impressively bad. You had to overcome serious odds to score this low. Well done.

                                                                                                                                                                                                            Alt...Screenshot with text: Results are in! Zero out of twenty one. This is impressively bad. You had to overcome serious odds to score this low. Well done.

                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]skgland »
                                                                                                                                                                                                              @skgland@toot.kif.rocks

                                                                                                                                                                                                              @samwho

                                                                                                                                                                                                              I scored 17/21 on e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.

                                                                                                                                                                                                              Screenshot of a Mobile Browser Window showing e-mail.wtf

Score 17 / 21 "You really shouldn't be scoring this high."

                                                                                                                                                                                                              Alt...Screenshot of a Mobile Browser Window showing e-mail.wtf Score 17 / 21 "You really shouldn't be scoring this high."

                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]Fred »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                @frederik@ohai.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                @samwho This is amazing! I was 100% sure spaces were (technically) allowed in the localpart, until I learned about the quoted form 🙈

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]Iris Volk »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @funkvolk@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @samwho Who said, fediverse was easy, because it was just like e-mail? Well…

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]Sebast. »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @Obenji69@maly.io

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @samwho 13/21 this was very instructive!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]Benoit Verhaeghe »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @badetitou@piaille.fr

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @samwho I had really good time doing the test. I scored 8/21. Some of the rules seems so dumb

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]Peter Bottenberg »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @cyberjack@phpc.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @samwho thanks. 17/21 (with a few lucky guesses though).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]Herzmut »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @herzmut@23.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @samwho That's just wrong. If an RFC gets amended and a client implements the latest, this can't be valid. Also, servers may reject the address on their level of implementation.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          This email address is invalid.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          quiz

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Jef Poskanzer »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @jef@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @samwho I was waiting for a question about angle brackets and snarky remarks about what can go outside of them.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]eNBeWe »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @eNBeWe@chaos.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @samwho EZ GG, First try

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I scored 21/21 on e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Even though I know a lot about it, I don't want to run my own mail server anymore.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]0x378 »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @0x378@chaos.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @samwho I agree that Nobody should score that high… I

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                A Screenshot of the result from the email.wtf Test. The Score is 20/21 with an undertext saying that ‚you really shouldn’t be scoring this high’.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Alt...A Screenshot of the result from the email.wtf Test. The Score is 20/21 with an undertext saying that ‚you really shouldn’t be scoring this high’.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]dbenzhuser »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @dbenzhuser@freiburg.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @samwho And of course: Just because an address is invalid doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. And is in active use. And just works ... most of the time.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]Æx :aaaaaaaaaaaa: 🐇 »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @ap10336@diaspodon.fr

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @samwho I scored 12/21 on e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media. :aaaaaaaaaaaa:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]Gnnr »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @gnnr@nrw.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @samwho

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I scored 12/21 on e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]Pascal »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @UnsignedLong@social.tchncs.de

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @samwho

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I scored 14/21 on e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]ilyess »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @ilyess@mastodon.online

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @samwho Well that was humbling. I scored 12/21, barely average xD

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]standev »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @standev@mstdn.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @samwho twelve, I am better than random chance (barely)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]Jon »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @jdp23@neuromatch.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @samwho this is great!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]Eli the Bearded »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @elithebearded@fed.qaz.red

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @samwho

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                As someone who currently uses "*" as a local part I was disappointed to only get 17. I forgot about the 998 octet rule and and remain pretty dubious about emoji as domain literal. Most of them were pretty obvious to me. Some of those "invalid" ones seem to work in practice.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Go ahead and email me at <i...wonder@qaz.wtf>

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                It should work if your client isn't a pedantic piece of shit.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                (edit s/client is/client isn't/
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                And for the record "Roundcube" is in my mind)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]Jaime Herazo »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @jherazob@mastodon.ie

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @samwho
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Have read the RFCs so expected utter weirdness, still got me

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]Koutsie :unverified: »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @k@layer8.space

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @samwho I scored 12/21 on e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Lol

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]Lucas Janin 🇨🇦🇫🇷 »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @lucas3d@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @samwho @pieq

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      10 / 21

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Yay! You're average! Time to start making plans for what you'll do when an LLM takes your job.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]lelloba :mastodon: :it: »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @lelloba@mastodon.uno

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @samwho I scored 10/21 on e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media. 😂😂😂

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]🚲 Arno roule 🚶‍♂️🐧♻️ :bzh: »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @abies77@piaille.fr

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @samwho
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I scored 13/21 on e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]scrottie (he/him/they) »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @scrottie@anarchism.space

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @samwho "above average" yay but I was expecting to get one point for knowing what a bang path is and didn't see a single bang path.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]R »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @r@glauca.space

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @samwho what the fuck

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              "I scored 15/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media."

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Alt..."I scored 15/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media."

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]Netux »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @Netux@mastodon.sdf.org

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @r @samwho how much of that was guesswork? Impressive either way though.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]R »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @r@glauca.space

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @Netux @samwho only the one or two that were full of random symbols

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  i've self-hosted email before, so i knew about comments, quotes, and non-fqdn domains. wasn't familiar with issues around spaces or consecutive dots

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]R »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @r@glauca.space

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @Netux @samwho but yeah, the fact that even almost-experts can't get it right is... not a good sign lol

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]Stephen Thorne »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @jerub@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @r @Netux @samwho I don't think it's that bad. The quiz talks about what's valid. Not what will actually work. :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]Sam Rose »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @samwho@hachyderm.io

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @jerub @r @Netux This.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I should have done a better job of explaining up front which RFCs I referenced for this, and that just because an address parses with some EBNF in an RFC doesn't mean it's going to actually work anywhere.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        It's a bit of fun, the score doesn't have any bearing on how spectacular you are at your job. :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]Stephen Thorne »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @jerub@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @samwho @r @Netux yeah, if this was an rfc822/821 quiz it would be entirely different.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          The whitespace stuff in 5322 got me big-time.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Quinn Norton »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @quinn@social.circl.lu

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @samwho GET BEHIND ME SATAN

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]Mx. Eddie R »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @silvermoon82@wandering.shop

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @samwho
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              16/21. Most of my errors were related to dots in the username, email is a lot more strict than I expected.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]Till Kamppeter »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @till@ubuntu.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @samwho 12/21, so I am not really an e-mail expert, only sending and receiving them, but thanks @thunderbird for making that easy.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]Thunderbird: Free Your Inbox »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @thunderbird@mastodon.online

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @till We wish we could have made that quiz easier, but we're happy to make everything else about email easy!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]Virginicus »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @Virginicus@universeodon.com

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @samwho I scored 14/21 on e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]Abimelech B. 🐧🇩🇪| wörk ™️ »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @abimelechbeutelbilch@fulda.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @samwho
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I scored 15/21 on e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media. 🤓

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]Lenz Grimmer »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @lenzgr@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @samwho 13 of 21, WTF indeed. Thanks for the entertaining education! Sadly, way too many services even reject plus addresses.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]OliverRautenberg AnthroBlogger »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @AnthroBlogger@chaos.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @samwho i didnt

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Sam Rose »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @samwho@hachyderm.io

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @AnthroBlogger When I ran through it the last time before posting about it, I scored 20/21.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]Shannon Kay »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @shannonkay@bookstodon.com

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @samwho

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I scored 10/21 on e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Might I say, this is amazing and email addresses are ridiculous.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]Friedrich Delgado »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @TauPan@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @samwho I scored 13/21 on e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I do work with a software that has to deal with emails and I didn't really pay attention so I probably would have gotten 2 more points if I did I guess. Most of the complexity is handled outside of our code though, of course I should say. Writing your own code to validate emails would be a bad mistake. Yes, everybody does it, it's still wrong.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]Monte Freeman »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @montef@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @samwho I got 15/21. Although I disagree with some of the ones it said I answered wrong.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I apparently need to work on my SMTP nerd skills. 🤓🫡

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]Hespera Smith »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @HesperaSmith@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @samwho
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    "I scored 12/21 on e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media."
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Sure I guess, makes as much sense as the rules do!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]Orion Ussner kidder »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @OrionKidder@mas.to

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Hey, Linux folks: does anyone have a sense of when/if there will ever be automated distribution version upgrades? Like, way back in the early 90s, I could install one version of Windows on top of another and lose nothing, but I screwed up my Deb 12 to Deb 13 upgrade and had to wipe it and start from scratch. That's on me, ofc, but an automated system would have saved me.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Thoughts?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]boredsquirrel »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @Rhababerbarbar@tux.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @OrionKidder

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I dont think versions make sense at all

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        is currently the only rolling distro with delayed feature updates, so you get more stable features but backported security fixes

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        The issue is that configurations change and so much has version numbers, like PHP, Python etc.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        We recently had an Apache config looking for the wrong PHP version, so you could absolutely upgrade but the config was broken after that. This could be handled by the OS though.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]boredsquirrel »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @Rhababerbarbar@tux.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @OrionKidder also notifies you of new default configurations, and you should check them for one machine at least to see if there are important new defaults

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          This could also be easy to clear up instead of just showing you a diff of the file, what was manually changed and what is just a default setting. But not totally easy.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I am not sure why there isnt even an option to auto-update many distros.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          distros like , , could make this a bit better

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Jorge Castro »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @jorge@hachyderm.io

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @OrionKidder People solved this long ago, Bluefin, etc ...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]Orion Ussner kidder »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @OrionKidder@mas.to

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @jorge Yeah, I'm learning that I'm just not on a distribution, Debian, that's interested in automated upgrades. Alas. I love Gnome, and I don't love Red Hat, so here I sit.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]sam »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @sam@cablespaghetti.dev

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @OrionKidder@mas.to @jorge@mas.to Bluefin has Gnome too 👀 😁 Come to the immutable image based dark side. We have cookies.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]fneddy »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @fneddy@dosgame.club

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @OrionKidder some distros like nixos always had it. You can do this yourself with btrfs or zfs snapshots(look at snapper [^1]) finally most immutable distributions will have exactly that behavior. Unfortunately most distributions don’t think this is an important feature. Specially in so traditional thinking environments like Debian.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  ^1 snapper.io/

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]boredsquirrel »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @Rhababerbarbar@tux.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @fneddy @OrionKidder

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Also fun how many distros want a password for updating existing packages. Like, is this a security risk or is your package manager just broken?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]fneddy »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @fneddy@dosgame.club

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @Rhababerbarbar @OrionKidder you change files owned by root in an update. Asking for a password seems to be a good measure to check if you are allowed to do this.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]boredsquirrel »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @Rhababerbarbar@tux.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @fneddy

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        No you dont. If you update and manually change config files then yes

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Otherwise your systems package manager is replacing old packages you got from your distro with new packages from your distro

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        What do you wanna do? Fork a package? Not update it?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        If you trust the distro, using the latest security fixes is no additional trust. And if they dont have backports that means the latest packages

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]fneddy »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @fneddy@dosgame.club

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @Rhababerbarbar to ask for a password to perform updates is not a philosophical question but a technical necessity introduced by system specifics and decisions, some of which date back to the 70s.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          its a fine balance between convenience, complexity and safety/security.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          you can totally make your apt work without a password. just set suid on the binary and problem solved. but by this you totally crashed the balance in the triangle threw the safety over board. :)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Adam Trickett :debian: :kde: »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @drajt@fosstodon.org

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @OrionKidder I've upgraded from Sarge all the way to Trixie, and only ever installed from scratch with all new hardware - though sometimes I've swapped all the disks over or the motherboard and kept the rest the same install in place.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Upgrades generally work perfectly with Debian if you follow the instructions, though it helps big time to not add non-core bits. This time I had one upsie from apt and one failure on my part. Both recovered without reinstalling.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            What problem did you hit?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]Orion Ussner kidder »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @OrionKidder@mas.to

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @drajt I got a screen saying, "Something went wrong" with a frowny face on it. I didn't even know where to start with diagnosing it--I'm still quite new--so I just reinstalled. I'm fairly adept at that part by now.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]Adam Trickett :debian: :kde: »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @drajt@fosstodon.org

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @OrionKidder that's most peculiar.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                How did you do the upgrade?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Did you type the commands in from the release notes, or use some GUI thing?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sometimes it does uninstall something you have to manually install again, and if you've heavily modified a configuration file then that can break the automatic upgrade, but I'm completely unfamiliar with what you described.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]Orion Ussner kidder »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @OrionKidder@mas.to

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @drajt I did the thing I should know better than doing: I found one page with terminal instructions, and I followed them without a) corroborating them on multiple sources, and b) knowing what the hell most of the commands actually mean. It's really my own fault. I was over eager to upgrade. I'll do it better next time, and I have two years to prep.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Edit: next time I will just follow Debian's own instructions.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]jordan »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @wagesj45@mastodon.jordanwages.com

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @OrionKidder What distro are you running? I run vanilla debian on my servers and just replaced `bookworm` with `trixie` in the apt source list and almost everything upgraded perfectly.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    The one exceptions were machines I had installed Nvidia drivers manually rather than through apt. But that was fixable.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Granted, I haven't updated a desktop install, so maybe there is some fuckery with the compositors/desktops?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]Orion Ussner kidder »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @OrionKidder@mas.to

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @wagesj45 I'm using Debian on a home computer. I'm starting to think I just followed bad instructions.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]jordan »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @wagesj45@mastodon.jordanwages.com

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @OrionKidder Maybe. Or Maybe Not! Upgrading a server with hardly anything on it, and without even a desktop, is way less prone to error. I basically did it on easy mode.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]Jorge Castro »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @jorge@hachyderm.io

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]Lyndon Lapierre »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @ljlapierre@fosstodon.org

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @jorge I'm keeping an eye on this!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I love the idea of immutable Centos + cockpit machines + ZFS for a sort of license-free homelab in a box. It's the sort of thing you could give to non-Linux folks and be confident in its reliability.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]sam »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @sam@cablespaghetti.dev

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @jorge@hachyderm.io I was briefly very confused at why this didn’t boot and then I remembered about the x86_64v3 requirement in RHEL 10. I guess I’m going to have to dig out some half decent hardware to test this, not one for my 7 year old Chromebooks…

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]sam »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @sam@cablespaghetti.dev

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I’m now migrated to a €7 a year VPS in the Netherlands. No more online safety act blocks for me! I’m trying out Debian Trixie in the process too so that’s fun…

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              My $12 VPS in London is paid up for the next 11 months though…I’ll have to think what to use it for.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]leah & glitches & bits, oh my! »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @millihertz@oldbytes.space

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @sam ooh, which one? i'm looking for a new deal myself, although my current one is Frankfurt-based

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]sam »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @sam@cablespaghetti.dev

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                DeluxHost. https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/208373/deluxhost-net-new-xeon-gold-epyc-vps-high-stability-start-from-7-yr-pre-order-nl

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                That said despite the IPv4 and v6 addresses showing up as NL in every database I've checked. I am STILL getting a 403 from lgbtqia.space. I give up. Oh well fun evening project.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]penguin42 »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @penguin42@mastodon.org.uk

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @sam @millihertz does the domain reverse to a .uk domain or something?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]Mans R »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @mansr@society.oftrolls.com

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @penguin42 @sam @millihertz@oldbytes.space If the stupid law magically applies to people with no connection to the UK, then surely it might also apply to UK residents operating a server elsewhere. That would even make a little sense.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]penguin42 »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @penguin42@mastodon.org.uk

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @mansr @sam Possibly; but I was wondering how it was detecting @sam UKness.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]sam »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @sam@cablespaghetti.dev

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @penguin42@mastodon.org.uk @mansr It’s nothing that advanced. Just one single geoip database incorrectly resolving the v6 prefix to london. Trying to get it updated.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]leah & glitches & bits, oh my! »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @millihertz@oldbytes.space

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @penguin42 @sam i get the same result here. whereas if i flip back to my Frankfurt VPS, i can see lgbtqia.space just fine.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          the irony is that DeluxHost isn't a UK-based company, whereas EthernetServers, who supply my Frankfurt VPS, is...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @mcp - are you aware that your geoblocking is being a bit overeager and blocking some Amsterdam-based IP addresses too?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]sam »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @sam@cablespaghetti.dev

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @millihertz@oldbytes.space @penguin42 I’ve tracked it to one of many geoip databases resolving the v6 address to London. All the others I have found say Amsterdam. I’m trying to get it updated. 🤦‍♂️

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]leah & glitches & bits, oh my! »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @millihertz@oldbytes.space

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @sam good luck! ...i'm considering the nuclear option - just turning IPv6 off at the server end. having had issues with IPv6 on a VPS before, i was surprised and delighted to find that you can do that from the DeluxHost control panel! and if it's just proxying / SOCKSying, then there's not much downside to IPv4-only

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              a less extreme alternative might be hardcoding lgbtqia.space to 195.201.202.11 in /etc/hosts - ed just tested this, and it worked for me.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]sam »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @sam@cablespaghetti.dev

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @millihertz@oldbytes.space Ooh good shout. I’m still trying to get the database updated, assuming it is that database in use…

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]leah & glitches & bits, oh my! »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @millihertz@oldbytes.space

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @sam thanks! i'm now in possession (well, virtually) of a shiny new €7pa EPYC-based VPS myself

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  as regards your London one - does the supplier have any data centres in mainland Europe, and would they be willing to switch it? i found that EthernetServers were quite happy to flip me across to Frankfurt once a US-based VPS looked like a bad idea

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]sam »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @sam@cablespaghetti.dev

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @millihertz@oldbytes.space Might be worth a go!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]Tim Chase »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @gumnos@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @sam wait, who's offering €7/year VPS instances?! I'm curious the specs you get for that.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      (Sincerely, a long time LowEndBox/LowEndTalk lurker 😉)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]Kyle Gordon »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @kyle@social.glasgownet.com

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @sam@cablespaghetti.dev Thanks for the great idea, now signed up too

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]James »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @james@soc.mrdonaldson.net

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @sam Hi, may I ask who you chose?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]sam »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @sam@cablespaghetti.dev

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          DeluxHost because they have a ridiculous deal. However I have discovered that hilariously the GeoIP database lgbtqia.space is using resolves the IPv6 address to the UK anyway. Hopefully that gets updated soon. https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/208373/deluxhost-net-new-xeon-gold-epyc-vps-high-stability-start-from-7-yr-pre-order-nl

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Adam Trickett :debian: :kde: »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @drajt@fosstodon.org

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @sam you can get a Debian VPS from OVH for €3.82+VAT with locations in France, Germany or Canada. They have other locations but not on the cheapest plan.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I've used them for hosting in France as a local endpoint for WireGuard to connect family computers in France and their stuff works fine. Their config tool is quite nice.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Not as friendly and personal as Mythical Beasts in the UK are, but competent.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]Jess Robinson »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @castaway@fosstodon.org

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @sam curious how this is saving you from the OSA, which applies everywhere that has UK users?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]sam »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @sam@cablespaghetti.dev

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Think of the children! Won't SOMEBODY think of the children!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]sam »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @sam@cablespaghetti.dev

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Sorry I realised you probably have no context for any of this. Instances (namely lgbtqia.space) are starting to block servers (based on a GeoIP database) as well as users in the UK. I don’t want to end up unable to communicate with a bunch of instances just because of where my server is hosted.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]StrikeVonNice »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @strike@bark.lgbt

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @sam That is a great deal! Who is your hosting provider if you don't mind saying.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]sam »
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @strike@bark.lgbt DeluxHost because they have a ridiculous deal. However I have discovered that hilariously the GeoIP database lgbtqia.space is using resolves the IPv6 address to the UK anyway. Hopefully that gets updated soon I’ve got a ticket open. https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/208373/deluxhost-net-new-xeon-gold-epyc-vps-high-stability-start-from-7-yr-pre-order-nl

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]Stephen Borrill »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @sborrill@justfollow.me.uk

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @sam you use the London VPS as your entry point, so anyone looking sees UK-traffic and the Netherlands one as your entry point so you get the smut

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]sam »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @sam@cablespaghetti.dev

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @sborrill@justfollow.me.uk Well I think it goes without saying that I’ll be using this instance as a Tailscale exit node for smut purposes.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]jamesb (MW1CGG) »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @jamesb@fedi.duckduckpigeon.co.uk

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I don't mind a detour for pointless shit.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            What is it? Winner gets a cookie.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]sam »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @sam@cablespaghetti.dev

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @jamesb@duckduckpigeon.co.uk Is that the house from Spaced?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]Philip Bragg »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @synx508@bsd.network

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @jamesb I know this, it's the house used in Spaced. Additional fact: I've never watched Spaced.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]S Brereton »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @sbrereton@mastodon.online

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @jamesb Spaced

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]S Brereton »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @sbrereton@mastodon.online

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @jamesb Hmm, I have the house to myself this weekend, am I doing the jobs I have planned or binge watching the whole thing?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]jamesb (MW1CGG) »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @jamesb@fedi.duckduckpigeon.co.uk

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @sbrereton So which episode are you up to now?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]sam »
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Dammit lgbtqia.space have GeoBlocked the UK because of the . This unfortunately has the side effect of blocking federation with any UK hosted instance…including my new single user snac instance. 😢

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I’ve sent the admin an email to see if they would consider unblocking just the apis needed for federation. I’m not holding out much hope though.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Cc @neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]sam »
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk I got a very quick reply to my email. To paraphrase, they have concerns that making the content available to UK users even via the federation APIs due to lack of certainty about the specifics of the law. I think that’s fair, but frustrating…guess I’m moving my instance elsewhere.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]Neil Brown »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        > We have been forced to geo-block access from the United Kingdom to the lgbtqia.space services and community.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        > This action is a direct result of the UK's Orwellian "Online Safety Act" a piece of legislation that, despite its name, is incredibly dangerous to online privacy and makes the internet absolutely not safe for marginalized communities and the volunteers who run services like this one.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        > Our condolences on the loss of freedom of expression.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        lgbtqia.space/

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]inpc »
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @neil if the servers are outside of the uk can action be taken against them or is this more risking individual users?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]John McLear »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @johnmclear@mastodon.green

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @neil I wonder how many subcultures / subreddits / online communities have silently given up and not bothered making a statement to criticize the government because the risk of being critical carries potential legal/criminal ramifications..

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Fair play to them explaining it to their community and hopefully they can find a new home elsewhere, perhaps IRC? :P

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]sam »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @sam@cablespaghetti.dev

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk @runningrobderby@mastodonapp.uk Well this sucks. Have they blocked federation from all UK hosted servers as well?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]sam »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @sam@cablespaghetti.dev

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk @runningrobderby@mastodonapp.uk They bloody have. Ffs...guess I'll have to relocate my Snac instance then.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]Gareth Kitchener »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @Lefthandbass59@social.vivaldi.net

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @neil

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I was worried this might start to happen.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Does this just mean that I will no longer see posts from that instance?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Can I get round it by using a VPN to make myself appear outside the UK?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]Ret »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @ret@furry.engineer

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @neil this is what they want. Is anybody surprised by this? Hope all those people who kicked off at me after the Ofcom Q&A sessions for being “too alarmist” about OSA are happy.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]Tony Hoyle »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @tony@toot.hoyle.me.uk

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @neil Dammit I've lost a few people as well. Might be time to move most of my servers to a DC somewhere else.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]Keith Wansbrough »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @kw217@mathstodon.xyz

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @neil that is one very impressive and clear statement on the block page. Good work.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]jtb »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @jtb@toot.wales

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @neil Why? And whose toot are you quoting?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]ltning »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @ltning@pleroma.anduin.net

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @neil I know it's been asked/mentioned by others in the replies, but I am really struggling to see what the UK can do to a server hosted outside the UK by a non-UK citizen.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Also, some of us fediverse admins are not terribly worried about what they might try to do in retaliation for not bowing to their hideous laws. Granted, I am the only user of this instance, but if I were to get an influx of lgbtq+++ users on any of my instances, I cannot imagine a situation where I'd be geo-blocking any country - including the UK.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I'm lucky - I run my instances on infrastructure that the UK cannot do anything about: My "ISP" is not one that can be hoodwinked into cutting me off, I'm happy to abstain from travelling to the UK indefinitely if that's the price to pay, and I have no dependencies on that country, whatsoever.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Just sayin'. Probably helpful to no-one.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]August Burns Red 🔥 »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @RVLara23@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @neil

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Jesus Christ.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I fear this is only going to get worse, especially here in the States too.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            How did they even find us? 🤣

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]the artist formerly known as »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @djsf@fosstodon.org

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @neil jesus, even nonprofit stuff is subject to this nonsense?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]tom jennings »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @neil

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                There is no ... EDIT silly post deleted.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]Ryan - G8RKE »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @G8RKE@mastodon.radio

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @neil Part of me wants the majrotiy of the web to geo block the UK in protest. That and have the porn habits of our MPs leaked online 👀

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]sam »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @sam@cablespaghetti.dev

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    A number of men are coming in a lorry tomorrow to collect a large number of my family’s belongings tomorrow.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    We’re trying to sell the place and I’m told piles of hoarded junk doesn’t help with that.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    A lot of it is boxed up already but still feeling moderately stressed about it. Still need to shut down the lack rack…

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]sam »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @sam@cablespaghetti.dev

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk Well actually what you’re referring to as Linux etc etc

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]Juha Uotila »
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]Timothée Ravier »
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @inffy You should remove the /2 at the end of the link 🙂

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]sam »
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I love my dinosaurs. Thank you. ❤️

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]gozes »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @gozes@hachyderm.io

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          After using and / for a for a bit I kind of want omarchy on universal blue. Getting all the benefits of never having to update because of bootc and how universal blue does things pair with the omarchy setup would be awesome. It would also be nice if bluefin-dx had mise pre installed but that's minor thing. Mind you I'm coming at this from 10+ years of my own home grown Arch setup. Having omarchy x ublue can probably replace all of that on day one

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Jorge Castro »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @jorge@hachyderm.io

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @gozes you can install mize with `brew install mise`.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]Jorge Castro »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @jorge@hachyderm.io

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @gozes i don't see anything on this list that you can't already do (other than including themes, etc. which is out of scope for us). Am I missing something?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]gozes »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @gozes@hachyderm.io

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @jorge so for me is the whole hyperland and setup and how well it's all put together. Mind you I have my own setup that I been carrying around for 10-15 years but it's not as well put together and cohesive as omarchy. I think of omarchy as a starter kit similar to minimal vim/neovim ones, if you come across does, where on one side you have your own custom setup that been put together over years and starter kit that has most of not all of the same functionality of your custom setup but it's put together in a thoughtful way to make it easy to extend to fit your needs. Which means declaring bankruptcy on my own setup, bring my key maps over to the starter kit, and maybe adding one or two things is not that hard.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Or are you referring to just building a custom ublue image using the GHA temple you build? I have thought of that but haven't had a chance to fully give that a try yet. That said given all the arch assumptions made by omarchy porting it to ublue is not as straightforward. Just looking at the packages used in omarchy it looks like such an image will have to bring over a lot of stuff from the copr because a lot of things are not in silver blue main as far as I can tell.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                All of that said I think ublue x omarchy, or an omarchy homage, would be an irresistible setup for any dev coming to Linux or even to someone like me who has been main Linux for 10+ years

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]Jorge Castro »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @jorge@hachyderm.io

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @gozes Oh I mean the dev stuff not the OS image - all of the tools, etc. are in bluefin already afaict.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]gozes »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @gozes@hachyderm.io

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @jorge hmm so all that it's missing then is the hyperland and the few other DE related stuff, because last I looked maybe 6 months back, hyperland and related tools where in copr but not in Fedora main. If that has changed then having something like omarchy on top of ublue is more doable then I thought

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]sam »
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @gozes@hachyderm.io @jorge@hachyderm.io As a starting point there is a Hyprland Wayblue image. I was thinking of copying some of the omarchy configs and things into an image based on this. However life is busy and I haven’t made any progress with it. Let me know if you do start building an image, maybe we can collaborate. 🙂 https://github.com/wayblueorg/wayblue

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]gozes »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @gozes@hachyderm.io

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @jorge yup that I know it's just so nice to have it there already specifically on the dx edition which is all about devs going from New machine to deploying code as soon as possible. TBH I don't know about mise until I tried omarchy and having had to fiddle with asdf or the language specific tool for this I don't think I want to go back to does when mise does it all :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]Cassidy James :ea: :gg: :fh: »
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Justin »
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @cassidy I do wish Flathub was separate so we could donate directly.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]👽🐦🦇🐉💻 »
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @cassidy I'm happy to say that I don't use gnome and never have. :)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              but good luck to any of you who is or have used it.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]SpaceCheeseWizard »
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @cassidy Very happy to support GNOME. It's become my favorite Desktop and is incredibly reliable.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]Kerplunk »
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @cassidy

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Donate to Gnome, NEVER WILL.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Ever heard of IBM RHEl and the gnome Foundation, let them fund the lumbering memory hogging monstrosity they created.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I tried Gnome once, the experience was interesting, customizing made as difficult as possible.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Over 1 GB of memory usage on a blank desktop. Ever heard of efficiency.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]TheLinuxPleb »
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @cassidy The way GNOME does theming hindering with GTK4 Libadwaita is just doing harm for Linux. Users using distros will wonder why their themes are all wonky and that's because GNOME's devs thinking that everyone should be same as they are. Also GNOME devs did a lot of hindering with Wayland adoption. It's no wonder that their funding has plummeted cause they mostly seem to do more harm to Linux than good.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]sam »
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @cassidy@blaede.family @siosm@floss.social Some of the negative responses to this. Wow! I’m a KDE Plasma user primarily but I’m also chewing up Flathub’s bandwidth and using a bunch of GTK apps so you can have some of my money. 🙂

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]Oriel Jutty :hhHHHAAAH: »
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @cassidy I'll consider befriending Gnome when it lets me use a password manager. Currently pinentry-gnome3 is desktop-modal, so whenever I want to switch to my password manager, the whole screen is locked by the password entry dialog and I can't do anything. The "experience" is shit.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        (There is an open bug for this issue, but no one has looked at it in years.)

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