@samwho as someone who once wrote an entire sendmail.cf from scratch - without m4 - I feel utterly ashamed to have scored 11/21.

@samwho Jesus.

@samwho Scored 16/21. That's better than I had expected. 🤷

@samwho abomination@horrible.cursed

and @north will probably like it

@samwho

I scored 18/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.
(But I have a slight advantage being a network engineer.)

@samwho now i want ":(){:|:&};:"@irgendwo.de as email adress
#lol #forkbomb #lulz

@samwho I have scored averagely, says the thing

@samwho dafuq did I read

@samwho for some reason, Ironfox really didn't like this site, but I did! 16/21 on Firefox!

@samwho No UUCP bang paths?

@samwho

I scored 12/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.

@samwho
16/21 .. that's ok for a cursed test..

@samwho It costs less dev time to just send mail to invalid addresses, anybody who doesn't get their confirmation link simply can't confirm their address... it's win/win

@samwho I scored 12/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.

better than expected!

@samwho I scored 13/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.

@samwho @ianthetechie

I scored 10/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.

@samwho "I scored 12/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media."

@samwho
Should be mandatory study for everyone that does form validation

@samwho w00t 10/21

@samwho I find it very interesting how much is allowed in an email address. Why? Maybe they had some idea to expand the uses back in the day (kinda like show a URL became an I striction set for http replies in API), but it never materialized?

@samwho
"I scored 14/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media."

@samwho
I scored 13/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.

@samwho no wonder all those email regex’s are so complex
15/21

@samwho This is brilliant!

@samwho
I scored 15/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.

@samwho I scored 12/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.

@samwho Having suffered through the audio quality of this genius talk https://youtu.be/xxX81WmXjPg, I felt prepared and knew some of the pitfalls. 16/21

@samwho I scored 10/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.

@samwho I scored 14/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.

@samwho I scored 15/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.

😔

@samwho I scored 11/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.

@samwho 20/21, forgot about “The spaces get ignored by the spec”. 🤦🏻‍♂️

@samwho I was going to mention the gmail dots thing, but someone else did, but I will mention an entertaining edge case it doesn’t mention is that in quoted local parts *it’s valid to have line breaks*😱

@samwho Damn some of these arte really weird...

@samwho Why are you doing this to me

@samwho I don't think domain example.com delivers mail ;P

And I thought I know email. Cc @heiglandreas

I scored 14/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.

@samwho

@samwho Incredible.

@samwho I scored 13/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.

Really great quiz! And, learnt a lot about it too.

@samwho okay i'll admit i got 12 in my first try (i would have gotten 14 if i trusted my gut more) and then did a second attempt with 20/21 and a third attempt with everything right and then this one ... I mainly wanted to know the response I'd get off if i had everything wrong.

Alt...

Screenshot with text: Results are in! Zero out of twenty one. This is impressively bad. You had to overcome serious odds to score this low. Well done.

@samwho

I scored 17/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.

Alt...

Screenshot of a Mobile Browser Window showing e-mail.wtf Score 17 / 21 "You really shouldn't be scoring this high."

@samwho This is amazing! I was 100% sure spaces were (technically) allowed in the localpart, until I learned about the quoted form 🙈

@samwho Who said, fediverse was easy, because it was just like e-mail? Well…

@samwho 13/21 this was very instructive!

@samwho I had really good time doing the test. I scored 8/21. Some of the rules seems so dumb

@samwho thanks. 17/21 (with a few lucky guesses though).

@samwho That's just wrong. If an RFC gets amended and a client implements the latest, this can't be valid. Also, servers may reject the address on their level of implementation.

This email address is invalid.

Alt...

quiz

@samwho I was waiting for a question about angle brackets and snarky remarks about what can go outside of them.

@samwho EZ GG, First try

I scored 21/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.

Even though I know a lot about it, I don't want to run my own mail server anymore.

@samwho I agree that Nobody should score that high… I

Alt...

A Screenshot of the result from the email.wtf Test. The Score is 20/21 with an undertext saying that ‚you really shouldn’t be scoring this high’.

@samwho And of course: Just because an address is invalid doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. And is in active use. And just works ... most of the time.

@samwho I scored 12/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.

@samwho

I scored 12/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.

@samwho

I scored 14/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.

@samwho Well that was humbling. I scored 12/21, barely average xD

@samwho twelve, I am better than random chance (barely)

@samwho this is great!

@samwho

As someone who currently uses "*" as a local part I was disappointed to only get 17. I forgot about the 998 octet rule and and remain pretty dubious about emoji as domain literal. Most of them were pretty obvious to me. Some of those "invalid" ones seem to work in practice.

Go ahead and email me at <i...wonder@qaz.wtf>

It should work if your client isn't a pedantic piece of shit.

(edit s/client is/client isn't/
And for the record "Roundcube" is in my mind)

@samwho
Have read the RFCs so expected utter weirdness, still got me

@samwho I scored 12/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.

Lol

@samwho @pieq

10 / 21

Yay! You're average! Time to start making plans for what you'll do when an LLM takes your job.

@samwho I scored 10/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media. 😂😂😂

@samwho
I scored 13/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.

@samwho "above average" yay but I was expecting to get one point for knowing what a bang path is and didn't see a single bang path.

@samwho what the fuck

Alt...

"I scored 15/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media."

@samwho GET BEHIND ME SATAN

@samwho

Pretty sure a few of those they say are illegal, are actually allowed. Consecutive dots are absolutely allowed in the local part. And you absolutely shouldn't treat brackets as comments in the local part.

"the local-part MUST be interpreted and assigned semantics only by the host specified in the domain part of the address."

Local-part = Dot-string / Quoted-string
Dot-string = Atom *("." Atom)
Atom = 1*atext

@samwho
16/21. Most of my errors were related to dots in the username, email is a lot more strict than I expected.

@samwho 15 :3

@samwho 12/21, so I am not really an e-mail expert, only sending and receiving them, but thanks @thunderbird for making that easy.

@samwho I scored 14/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.

@samwho
I scored 15/21 on https://e-mail.wtf and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media. 🤓

@samwho 13 of 21, WTF indeed. Thanks for the entertaining education! Sadly, way too many services even reject plus addresses.

@samwho i didnt

@OrionKidder

I dont think versions make sense at all

#OpenSUSE #Slowroll is currently the only rolling distro with delayed feature updates, so you get more stable features but backported security fixes

The issue is that configurations change and so much has version numbers, like PHP, Python etc.

We recently had an Apache config looking for the wrong PHP version, so you could absolutely upgrade but the config was broken after that. This could be handled by the OS though.

@OrionKidder People solved this long ago, Bluefin, etc ...

@sam ooh, which one? i'm looking for a new deal myself, although my current one is Frankfurt-based

@sam wait, who's offering €7/year VPS instances?! I'm curious the specs you get for that.

(Sincerely, a long time LowEndBox/LowEndTalk lurker 😉)

@sam@cablespaghetti.dev Thanks for the great idea, now signed up too

@neil hi

@sam Hi, may I ask who you chose?

@sam you can get a Debian VPS from OVH for €3.82+VAT with locations in France, Germany or Canada. They have other locations but not on the cheapest plan.

I've used them for hosting in France as a local endpoint for WireGuard to connect family computers in France and their stuff works fine. Their config tool is quite nice.

Not as friendly and personal as Mythical Beasts in the UK are, but competent.

@sam curious how this is saving you from the OSA, which applies everywhere that has UK users?

@neil if the servers are outside of the uk can action be taken against them or is this more risking individual users?

@neil I wonder how many subcultures / subreddits / online communities have silently given up and not bothered making a statement to criticize the government because the risk of being critical carries potential legal/criminal ramifications..

Fair play to them explaining it to their community and hopefully they can find a new home elsewhere, perhaps IRC? :P

I wonder if I can still talk with @alice... A shame if not!

@neil

I was worried this might start to happen.

Does this just mean that I will no longer see posts from that instance?

Can I get round it by using a VPN to make myself appear outside the UK?

@neil shit

@neil this is what they want. Is anybody surprised by this? Hope all those people who kicked off at me after the Ofcom Q&A sessions for being “too alarmist” about OSA are happy.

I have sympathy for the admin(s) of lgbtqia.space.

I can understand the concerns that led to this.

It sucks, but it is not their fault that they are in this position.

@neil Dammit I've lost a few people as well. Might be time to move most of my servers to a DC somewhere else.

@neil that is one very impressive and clear statement on the block page. Good work.

@neil Why? And whose toot are you quoting?

@neil I know it's been asked/mentioned by others in the replies, but I am really struggling to see what the UK can do to a server hosted outside the UK by a non-UK citizen.

Also, some of us fediverse admins are not terribly worried about what they might try to do in retaliation for not bowing to their hideous laws. Granted, I am the only user of this instance, but if I were to get an influx of lgbtq+++ users on any of my instances, I cannot imagine a situation where I'd be geo-blocking any country - including the UK.

I'm lucky - I run my instances on infrastructure that the UK cannot do anything about: My "ISP" is not one that can be hoodwinked into cutting me off, I'm happy to abstain from travelling to the UK indefinitely if that's the price to pay, and I have no dependencies on that country, whatsoever.

Just sayin'. Probably helpful to no-one.

@neil

Jesus Christ.

I fear this is only going to get worse, especially here in the States too.

How did they even find us? 🤣

@neil *bump* careful now, I was carrying my freshly updated Debian 13 around ;)

@neil

Seems unlike such niche OS users would hangout on this platform 😉🤷‍♂️

@neil don’t be daft. Everyone here is on Haiku or some tricked out custom build of Amiga Workbench.