@neil the fact that nobody has been talking about it should be an indictment on our political and media culture.

See also: years and years of press coverage of the Post Office scandal as well as an ongoing public inquiry, but it taking a TV dramatisation to really take hold in the public consciousness.

* it will get worse before it gets better. More sites will geoblock the UK, and more (small, especially) sites will shut down, concerned about liability and risk. Even if there is political will to resolve aspects of Parliament's mess - and that is unclear, at best - that will take time.

* it is of no surprise that organisations with financial interests in age assurance will come out with claims about VPN'd traffic and how sites should apply age assurance to it. Product to shift. Reporting should be critical and objective, mindful of obvious biases like this!

* self-hosting may help some people solve some problems, but is not the answer for most people and does not make all problems go away.

@0xabad1dea good morning odin!

@0xabad1dea good morning Odin!

@0xabad1dea ❤️ Happy Day😍

@ariadne that's awesome!

we will not stop until the only background allowed for the X root window is the progress pride flag

that... that is how serious we are about making the linux desktop gay

@sam Works for me.

@clacksee

I've boosted this toot. Will they do anything besides discuss this in the parliament?

p.s.: you'all will need more than 100,000 votes to counteract any invalid ones. From 14,000 to 40,000 extra votes.

@clacksee signed a while ago but giving it a boost

@clacksee Dont remember signing that one but it says I have (mentioning just in case its a problem and other people are getting the same message)

@clacksee Seems to work.
Now at 78951 signatures

Or " 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 , 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 5 4 3 2 1 0 1 0 signatures" as copy/paste would have it.

@clacksee I would sign if I could! Good luck getting those signatures
🤞🙏🤞🙏🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️

@clacksee done ✅

@clacksee

Signed and boosted!

@clacksee wait, did it mean anybody will be able to do a transition for free? Cool.

@clacksee
Signed, making it 80,000 exactly. :-)

@sophie geoCities, or more likely, a myspace page with customized CSS/HTML.

@sophie I had a GeoCities site in the 90s. In the 2000s, my ISP (Comcast) offered free space for a personal website, so I had it hosted there. I want to say that ended in the mid 2010s, but TBH I just can’t remember.

@sophie I was teaching computers to teenagers in 2000 and we did a mix of HTML, CSS & MS Frontpage

@sophie That was peak Myspace. That was probably the last time the most popular social media platform expected or allowed people direct access to the HTML.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myspace

@sophie I clearly remember making a geocities site in 1999. I think I got MS FrontPage in 2000, possibly 2001 though. I would say that some people were still using notepad, typing in code from books at this point.

@sophie Local ISP offered hosting under tilde dirs, so put text-edited html there for a while. Think I got my own domain around then and quite possibly ran the site off a linux box at home? Geocities was definitely still a thing tho

@sophie mine was basically all static html, hand-rolled like some feral woodland creature

@sophie definitely built my first website using Microsoft Front Page and Tripod.com in maybe even as late as 2001 :D So Tripod definitely tracks.

@sophie Text editor (!Edit on my RISC PC at the time) and then upload it via FTP to my ISP's provided free 100Mb web space.

@sophie My ISP was Albatross, in Norwich, and they gave customers a bit of webspace. As for writing it... hand authored, angle bracket by angle bracket, in whichever text editor I was using at the time (either BBEdit if I had the old Mac IIci then, or FTE if my machine was Linux; can't remember) and then uploaded either by command line FTP or with Fetch. But I was a techie type even back then, so I suspect this isn't necessarily normal :)

@sophie Geocities and Livejournal in 2000, plus work for first clients on basic hosting, but prior in 98/99 was handcoded HTML on my university server.

@sophie Macromedia HomeSite

@sophie Demo version of macromedia dreamweaver. From the front cover CD of a magazine.

@sophie Built in MS Publisher, published on Freeserve

@sophie Some Microsoft Front Page definitely, then an early version of dreamweaver. Before eventually just using notepad to edit stuff.

@sophie Frontpage and Tripod.

@sophie I had one on beepworld.com but that must have bean really early 2000s

@sophie Geocities aside pre-2000, some dude I knew from IRC (EfNet?) had a web server and gave me some space in return for some (fledgling) design/dev work - I've had the same domain since June 2000 (25 years!). Homesite / PhotoShop / FTP were the weapons of choice.

@sophie by 1999/2000 I had moved on from writing table layouts in notepad on Geocities/Anglefore/Fortunecities etc to subdomains on cPanel shared hosting or my own domain on cPanel shared hosting and writing table layouts with rounded corner gifs in CuteHTML, transferring files with CuteFTP. CPanel hosting opened up the world of server side includes and eventually php includes 🙌

Sounds like a sweeet project!

@sophie hand-built using Joe, the Linux command line editor. Running on Apache on my own machine. Dynamic stuff was Perl as CGIs (programs you hooked into the web server that received the request and output the html, which got sent back to the browser.)

@sophie I had a Geocities site in 2002, as did some of my classmates. Angelfire and Lycos were still in use too IIRC 😊

@sophie back then the ISPs had hosting, my first website was a subdomain on clara.net :)

@sophie Static site generator that was a bunch of hand written Ruby scripts, and a LiveJournal to post emo poetry to.

@sophie Geocities in the 90s, then hosted my own at some local web- and mailhosting company.

@sophie Free ISP webspace, handwritten HTML or maybe Netscape/Mozilla Composer.

@sophie Geocities, both using the web portal and FTP.

I was working on a project in sixth form in ~2001 to create a website for AS-Level Computing. Geocities’ portal stopped working for some reason, so I learned to use FTP on the Windows 2000 command line.

I watched the VNC server switch on, and the head of IT spying on me. He came down to the library to ask me what I was doing 😄

@sophie I too used the space provided by our ISP. I still have the page, iframes and all 😍
(I had it on Tripod as well, for some reason. Not sure which I considered the main.) Anyway, that’s what I used 1998-2002.

https://bjoreman.com/old/index.htm

@sophie Hand-rolled in emacs and possibly hosted on Demon, or maybe I’d sorted out an actual server at that point. I wish past me had actually made a note of these things.

@sophie, static HTML mishandled in Dreamweaver or HomeSite FTPed to shared hosting hooked up to a free domain from NameZero, or some such.

@sophie I bought a domain name and maybe 50mb space from a UK host in 1998, that I was still running in 2000. I hadn’t got to grips with any server side language, so I was just uploading HTML files I was writing in Notepad along with images I was making in Paint Shop Pro.

@sophie frontpage and free hosting.

@sophie geocities in the 90s, then with my isp (Demon), then self-hosting with 34sp by 2003 or so

@sophie I started building in 2000 and it was mainly on Geocities. I also tried Angelfire and maybe Tripod more briefly but I didn't learn html right away so wysiwig was easier for me.

A couple to several years later I'd learned enough html that I got away from Geocities and was always looking for free hosts that didn't force a giant banner ad. I remember using Awardspace, might've used HostRocket, and I think there were others I don't remember. Much later (2015?) I used Jolly Leaf for a bit.

@sophie Probably 3 or 4 years later, but using then (and still using now) Macromedia Dreamweaver MX. Although some of my pages (local startup homepages full of all my 'useful' websites) was written in Notepad++ using HTML and CSS (modified from on-line examples).

@sophie ISP offered a massive 10MB hosting; everything coded in SimpleText.
Later migrated to PHP, BBEdit, and… probably F2S (c 2001)

@sophie By then? By hand with light automation. My GeoCities site was ca. 1996/1997. By 2000 I was writing it in Emacs and using html-helper-mode. Found a snapshot of my old about page:

https://web.archive.org/web/20010210181003/http://www.cstone.net/~mphall/tools.html

@sophie by hand, but less technical people were using Microsoft Frontpage or similar and ftping them to a hosting provider

@sophie your ISP account usually provided space for a website and an email account.

Your username was used in the directory of your site. For instance http://cantv.net/user/~goliath

And your email would be goliath@cantv.net

@sophie I've hosted my own with my own (crappy code) since 2002. I did run a little Web agency with some others, so had my own hosting.

@sophie hand rolled html uploaded to members.aol.com!

@sophie mostly FrontPage Express and uploading via FTP.
I had some space on my university's server and then, later, on a shared space run by a friend.

@sophie universities would actually allow all CS students to just have these domain.something/~username/ folders open to the world where we could place the HTML that we wrote on a text editor like emacs, vim and the like (and we’d barely bother with CSS) and nobody bothered to consider there was any reputational risk in that

@sophie do you remember Angelina.com from 1994? So cat-gif-animation all over 😄

@sophie

cc'ing @StefanMuenz, who wrote the most popular german language HTML tutorial/reference around that time

@sophie I bought a domain and rented server space with a Moveable Type installation around 2001

@sophie I had a site on Tripod from about '98, then on Geocities from '00-02. Static HTML written in Notepad (admittedly I learned HTML mostly by "view source" and ripping off bits of other sites that I liked).

@sophie

We edited the HTML in a text editor and uploaded the files with ftp.

@sophie
My first website was hosted on the university's servers. They set it up so computer science students could create a directory in their home directory and add the html there.

@sophie Straight html, then .Net

@sophie Definitely angelfire and writing plain HTML in notepad. Would get HTML books from flea markets for cheap as reference.

@sophie for me it was handcoded html in notepad and ftp'ed it to freeserve webspace that came with my dad's ISP. Might be a bit tech rather than non techie... Live journal was kicking off in '99 which might be more appropriate for the protagonist?

@sophie
html

@sophie In 2006 my very first website/blog was built with RapidWeaver on my Mac and hosted on Aquaray. As soon as Apple released iWeb I started using it for my website/blog.
Then I switched on Wordpress for the blog and homemade landing page for the website.

@sophie Frontpage Express and then Macromedia DreamWeaver.

I myself wrote in Notepad and then Notepad++.

@sophie i got an HTML for dummies book and handcoded it.

@sophie I think around then I was using Dreamweaver and its amazing templating and FTP sync. It was a hair past my Geocities/Tripod phase but I was still on dial-up and using shared LAMP stack hosting.

@sophie
I used Vim v5.x to write plain HTML, but not a non-techie type..

@sophie I think GeoCities was the go-to for non-techies until MySpace came around in '03. Aspiring techies would have been coding up home pages in HoTMetaL or HotDog (...or - ugh - MS FrontPage.)

(Circa 2000 I would have been moving from Macromedia Drumbeat & Dreamweaver to Allaire ColdFusion & HomeSite. Ahh, ColdFusion was the bees knees.)

@sophie
I used website builders like Dreamweaver, FrontPage, and early TYPO3 mainly as visual aids, but most work was hand-coded in HTML4. Layouts relied heavily on tables and frames. Video and interactive media were embedded using Flash (SWF) or Java applets. Full manual builds were the norm, since CMS tools were limited and dynamic content required custom back-end scripting—often with Perl. And honestly, we couldn’t care less about missing HTTPS or security in general back then!😎

@sophie I had several GeoCities sites in the mid-late 90s, as well as one hosted through my ISP (internet service provider) of the time, EarthLink.

In the early 2000s, I had a personal site on my university student web server. I also started using shared hosting services to host my own domains. I know MediaTemple was one of the big ones, but the name BlueHost (or something like that?) also seems familiar.

Many of those sites were static, but I did use some cgi scripts for managing parts.

@sophie I wrote XHTML and CSS in EditPad, with images made in shareware Paint Shop Pro (I think).

@sophie did many sites 1993-2002 writing html in BBEdit text editor, uploading to server with good old Fetch for ftp (still use that). Lots of educators had Unix email which came with disk space what some call tilde spaces for the ~ before the username in a url

@sophie @oscarjiminy Netscape Composer

@sophie In the 2000's I think it was Geocities, Tripod and ISPs. Netscape Comunicator had an html editor.

@sophie Stones WebWriter, ftp and a ~ account at my ISP

@sophie building? Wasn’t ~2000 the years of Dreamweaver, GoLive and Frontpage? Then FTPing to a cheap hoster, who was responsible for domain and email services too…

@sophie I registered my first domain around '98 through Strato, a shared hoster here in Germany. Back then they offered a whopping 1MB webspace in their smallest plan called "Webvisitenkarte" (~online business card). That was enough to upload some HTML/CSS and a few asset images. For larger images I used free hosting at purespace, which was a free tier of Puretec, which was affiliated with 1&1. I had accounts on geocities, tripod, and such, but never really used them because of that domain.

@sophie I had a Geocities site around 1996 (I still remember the neighbourhood/number!), but by 2000 I was all PHP outputting HTML and Inlined CSS 😬 uploaded via FTP. No version control whatsoever.

@sophie ISPs typically let you have a web site by uploading it to the public_html directory in your home directory. It would then appear at http://someisp.com/~username/
I wrote in raw HTML.

@sophie another raised hand for Homesite here! I used the snippets feature often when I was coding static HTML, and it was helpful when I started learning PHP.

I had access to Dreamweaver but often switched to the HTML editor instead of the WYSIWYG editor -- although it was good with "onion skins" if your boss said something needed to be "pixel-perfect" and you were building with tables.

For my personal site, I moved from GeoCities to Dreamhost in the early aughts, and been there ever since.

@sophie I went though the Angelfire -> Tripod -> Icestorm pipeline to having a domain with Dreamhost in 99 or 2000 - can’t remember exactly when!

@alice HELLO DEAR

@alice My kin! Ferrets are so cute.

Edit: Weasels are also cute but are not ferrets, even if my little racoon eyes mistake them. Lol

@alice Wait! Is @nuintari stopping by for a visit? Y'all have fun!

@alice hehe, good morning!

@alice

box,,,,,,,,

@alice it's ferret friday 🥳

@alice
Hi Alice 👋
You wake up, I get sleepy

@alice
Once you pop the fun don't stop!

@alice

I think this needs pingpong effect. 😄

@alice @catsalad Yay! I see a fun-looking ferret extrusion tube in the background, too!

@alice @andycarolan If it fits, it ships.