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We know that becoming a contributor can feel a little intimidating, but everyone has to start somewhere, right??
What's stopping you from contributing to open source?
| Time constraints ⏰: | 134 |
| Don't know where to start 🤔: | 200 |
| Imposter syndrome 😅: | 74 |
| Nothing, I already do! 🎉: | 96 |
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@almalinux i chose "don't know where to start". i have historically contributed to open source projects but got tied up in life and couldn't work on those things for a few years.
i'm back at it now and i'm having great trouble identifying a project to contribute to. ideally it'd be something i use that needs my skillset but that's a tough thing to track down.
@almalinux there doesn't seem to be a place for ux designers in open source... it's mostly solving tickets
@almalinux Learning to make good bug reports is a great way to start, or is even a destination. (For me, it's mostly a destination)
¿What did you do, step by step?
¿What happened?
¿What did you expect to happen?
¿Can you make it happen more than once? (if no, still report it but say that)
¿What versions are you using of everything (OS, software, anything that might be relevant)?
(do check if someone has already filed it)
@almalinux I could answer all of those. My job involves developing open source software and I have done a few personal side projects, but the other constraints (time in particular) mean that anything outside work is being put aside. One other issue is Google's demands for developer registration and ID - I'll stop developing rather than hand that over. I'd like to work on Pebble software if I could.
@almalinux It's both “Don't know where to start” and “Imposter syndrome” for me. Big codebases I don't know scare me, and I don't think I'm good enough to solve most issues. 
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Executive dysfunction is a core component of ADHD and often involved in autism, depression, bipolar, and OCD.
It's a big barrier with widely ranging impacts, from struggles getting started to being unable to stop, from memory issues to indecision.
But, what exactly is executive dysfunction? 🧵
First things first, executive function isn't just one thing; It's a series of abilities.
Struggles with any of these could be called executive dysfunction, but usually 'executive dysfunction' means struggles with many or all of them, especially as a barrier to getting started.
The exact number of skills that make up executive function isn't entirely agreed upon, but let's talk about four categories:
1) inhibition,
2) attention regulation,
3) working memory, and
4) cognitive flexibility
Inhibition
When inhibition goes wrong, the results are impulsivity.
Everyone has impulses or urges. These happen first, and when they do, inhibition is meant to fire up to stop us from acting rashly.
That… isn't what happens for ADHD'ers (or bipolar folks in mania) a lot of the time. For ADHD'ers, urges are faster and more frequent, and inhibition is slower to fire up
This slowed inhibition (measured in milliseconds) is large enough for us to commit to an action before inhibition tells us to stop, and once we're committed it's much harder to get us to stop.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4086366/
This slowed inhibition impacts small things like talking out of turn, fidgeting, agreeing to something before we've actually thought about it.
And once we've started, this can develop momentum and lead us to much bigger impulsive moves, like impulsive buying, eating, or sex
This slowed inhibition response is also the reason ADHD'ers have flash emotions: We get the impulsive emotion and before our inhibition shuts it down, we're already in our feels.
It's also tag teams us with other executive functions like Attention Regulation. Speaking of which...
Attention Regulation
Distractions can be external, such as sights, sounds, and smells, but they can also be internal, such as thoughts, memories, emotions, or bodily needs.
These internal distractions can be harder for ADHD'ers to ignore or manage, because we tend to experience these internal distractions more often.
For autistic folks, attention regulation is involved with sensory sensitivities, making sensory distractions harder to ignore and manage
For OCD folks attention regulation goes wrong when obsessions end up causing thought loops that we can't seem to shake.
This struggle with attention regulation is obviously the reason ADHD'ers struggle to focus, but it also impacts which information we feel is relevant to making a decision, our struggle to choose what to do next,
and it's even related to how things just pop out of our heads sometimes…
Working Memory.
When things pop out of the head, it is generally working memory that's going wrong.
This happens to everyone to some degree, but for ADHD'ers it's so frequent and so impactful that it can cause real havoc in our lives.
Working memory is basically the memory specifically for things we're working on.
We can fill it with instructions or sensory input, information we want to store long-term, or memories we already have that we need for the current thing we're working on
Working memory isn't meant to last forever.
In fact, it only lasts for about 30 seconds, so it's really easy for things to drop out of working memory.
If we change environment, devices, or what we're focusing on, working memory is often wiped. …and that's why ADHD'ers struggle with it so much.
Because people with ADHD shift focus more often, our working memory tends to get wiped more often too
On top of that, ADHD'ers often have a smaller working memory to start with because impulses also take up some of those slots.
For autistic folks, working memory can be impacted as well, once again because sensory sensitivities cause a mess.
Sensory issues can overwhelm working memory, pushing everything else out and leading us to forget what we were working on or the information we needed to work with
Having a fragile working memory explains why we forget pieces of instructions, for example, or misplace our keys.
It also explains why we might struggle with names, or even struggles with creating long-term memories (because it has to pass through working memory to get there)
Finally, Cognitive Flexibility.
When things go sideways, cognitive flexibility is the executive function that allows us to adapt and carry on.
At its core, cognitive flexibility is essentially being able to think about things in different ways, often at the same time, and make connections.
ADHD'ers tend to be extremely cognitively flexible in some ways, but rigid in others.
For example, ADHD'ers tend to be really good at creative problem solving, which requires cognitive flexibility. However, black-and-white thinking, a sign of cognitive rigidity, is also really common for ADHD'ers
For autistic folks, struggles with cognitive flexibility are very common, including struggles adapting to unexpected changes, taking different perspectives (especially when stressed), decoding complex or ambiguous communications or social cues, or moving from one context or environment to another.
Depression, anxiety, and OCD also impact cognitive flexibility, by making it harder to think flexibly due to the emotional upheaval
It's harder to be flexible when you're panicking, for example, when the world feels like it's out to get you or you're in an obsession spiral.
Beyond these four core executive functions, there are a couple other skills and abilities that are often included:
1) Task Intiation, or getting started,
2) Self-awareness, or being aware of our thoughts, bodily sensations, and emotions, and
3) Planning and Prioritizing
I won't go into these right now, but these additional executive functions are sometimes considered to be combinations of the ones above.
For example, struggles with bodily awareness, can be impacted by attention regulation, working memory, and inhibition. And this is the biggest takeaway:
Executive functions are a bunch of different abilities that interact, team up, and play off each other.
Any time that any one of these goes wrong, it can be called executive dysfunction, and they can go wrong for everyone from time to time, however...
For certain people, such those of us who are ADHD, autistic, anxiety, OCD, or depression, executive dysfunction can come in more flavours, can happen more often, and can have much larger impacts on our lives when it does show up
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As of Fedora Linux 43, would you make Fedora your go-to recommendation for someone's first Linux distro? Please check the response that most closely fits what you think.
Feel free to share your thoughts in the replies!
#Fedora #FedoraPoll #Linux #OpenSource
| Yes, it is my go-to recommendation: | 451 |
| No, it is not my go-to recommendation: | 121 |
| No, but it would be in my top 3 recommendations: | 366 |
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@fedora Yes, but only if it’s Silverblue/Atomic Desktop. Unless they want to tinker, but most people want it to just work.
@fedora I don't blanket-recommend. If fedora fits their needs, I recommend it. If it doesn't, I don't.
@fedora it would be if Fedora defaulted to Flathub for Flatpaks. The fact that you need to tell someone how to change their default software source out of the box makes it a non-starter for first time users IMO
@fedora Depends on what they need. My main issue for non tech savvy people would be the lack of an LTS version.
@fedora while I use Fedora as my daily driver, I answered no. It's in my top-three depending on who I am making the recommendation to.
The process for installing the best drivers for some hardware choices could be better. It's not well explained. Same goes with the codecs. Mint does an excellent job with a goal-focused wizard that solves it all with two clicks and an internet connection.
@fedora Not as a first distro, but for more or less experienced users, it can be an excellent choice.
@fedora needs to improve warnings to install third-party codecs, have easy access to the rpm fusion option, have easy access to install third-party compatibility. Put flatHub as standard, make the store bazaar standard by being more complete. I would recommend it for beginners. I would never install Fedora on the first trip, I came from Zorin and learned there.
@fedora already did on F41 and F42 for mom and dads computers with kinoite, everything works great for a while alredy, did not have many support calls
@fedora No because of you export control lisence, as i'm in EU side, giving this kind of advice because of the US orange Nazi is a very bad advice.
So unless you revoke the said license for "normal user", i sadly would not.
Under normal US presidency i would have said yes, but since the nazi are in power...
Not to Linux beginners when they are on their own to try it.
There are some major pitfalls, as missing codecs.
Even for me as a sysadmin installing the right ones is tedious (just installing the multimedia group wasn't enough).
I just installed vlc or mpv player as a flatpak to circumvent the default black screen in vlc on H264 content.
Another big issue is the proprietary nvidia driver and how to install it.
I wish Fedora would include a program like on Mint or Ubuntu that informs users of missing additional drivers and asks them, whether they want to install them.
I like that the RPMFusion repo with the driver is there to enable in the software store. But you have to know that it's there and that you have to enable it to install the driver in the first place.
@fedora Fedora is a good distribution for first Linux usage, but I tend to recommend Ubuntu because the majority of linux software are Debian packages, and if the user search help in internet, the majority of guides are designed for Debian/Ubuntu. Moreover, the post-installation is so simple on Ubuntu, because the NVIDIA driver is proposed in installer, as well as multimedia codecs.
I would love to move to and support Fedora, but I CANNOT get it to install on Intel Mac hardware.
Otherwise...
@fedora I feel like it’s my go-to for myself and other techies but for average folks I still recommend Ubuntu. Not really sure the usability gap is still there though, as it’s been a while since I have used it and also since I’ve used a clean Fedora install.
@fedora F43 not going to recommend to anyone, fix all the bugs, specially the big one that gets stuck in black screen (KDE), this release had introduced so many difficult to solve bugs
@fedora I use/love Fedora Workstation, but I feel like people’s heads explode when I mention you need to spend 5 minutes manually enabling video acceleration, and possibly dealing with Nvidia drivers. (Still maybe? I don’t have Nvidia myself…)
“Why does it not just work or ahip the right drivers out of the box‽” Is a real question I’ve gotten, and my answer starts with a long sigh.
@fedora Techically yes but only in regards to off shoots of silverblue. These being bazzite and bluefin. They provide much better out of the box experiences for new users.
@fedora fuck no, beginners should use a user friendly os without any bullshit and I can only name one distro which fulfills these two requirements: Linux Mint Debian Edition(LMDE)
@fedora I recommend Fedora for its ease of installation, stability, and constant updates. Since I started using Fedora as my main distribution a few years ago, it has been my top recommendation.
No, it is not my go to recommendation because for a newbie the updates must be as easy and transparent as possible and, for a newbie, to have to do an upgrade at least every year can be a bit heavy.
@fedora elementary OS is my go to recommendation.
It is the most well designed Linux desktop user experience.
@fedora Depends IMHO on the use case. As desktop sure, but e.g. if the user wants to learn something about Linux then distros like Gentoo are much better... Or for old hardware Debian might be better for example. Security wise Qubes is better and so on... 😅
@fedora Unfortunately no. People who just switched mostly care about their old apps so that means an Ubuntu based system. Generally I recommend Linux mint.
@fedora only if Fedora User Repository is exist🙃
@fedora it depends. If they have a NVidia GPU I still recommend them some flavor of Ubuntu. However, for myself and those who have AMD GPU's I enthusiastically recommend KDE Fedora.
@fedora Longtime user of Fedora KDE here (since FC5!!) Yes, I would, especially since KDE is no longer just a spin. The main thing I love about Fedora that other user-friendly distros miss is that Fedora ships application and kernel updates in the main repos instead of forcing users to stick with the same drivers for 2 years for "stability." Mint and Ubuntu are fine for trying out Linux on your old laptop, but Fedora's one of the few friendly distros that supports new hardware between releases.
You have an hour to help me decide
| rice: | 1 |
| naan: | 5 |
| bunny chow: | 5 |
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There are many filesystems to choose from, but we're curious: which one do you use?
Answer the poll and then tell us in the comments why it's your choice!
| xfs or Ext4: | 91 |
| Btrfs: | 42 |
| ZFS: | 19 |
| Other (leave a reply!): | 2 |
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@almalinux I have xfs and ext4. With the ext4 I came through the ranks from ext2 then three then four. Probably, back in the early days for me, it was the default file system.
Xfs gods a good write up in a couple of magazines, so I decided to give it a try.
Since either 2001 or 2011 when I started Linux, no file system problems. Other than a dicky USB thumb drive!
@almalinux Strange poll. Shouldn't ext4 and xfs have their own option? Personally, I prefer ext4. I know Alma 10.1 will allow btrfs installation, which is great! The poll design is still strange though.
@almalinux
btrfs.
- system snapshots are instant and automated with Timeshift, allowing an easy go-back in time in case of problem. (Hack your system with peace of mind).
- duplicating a giga-bytes folder is instant... and consumes no place on disk.
- with compression and deduplication, it's giga-bytes of space saved.
- / and /home can share free space while being separated. Not more "Oh no I have no space left on partition A and plenty of space on B".
@almalinux
I use all.
XFS for heavy and realtime workload, such as kvm host.
Ext4 is my defaupt option, which makes good balance on performance and reliability(survive powerloss).
Started to use btrfs in production recently, when I need snapshot and compression, and on hardware raid.
Finally get rid of meta-data rotten problem and becomes usable after several years since it's release.
Use ZFS for proxmox, although hungry on ram, it is the most robust and performant one.
@almalinux ZFS for actual storage on storage servers, xfs for OS.
Kudos to AlmaLinux for undoing deprecation done by RH of some fully functional disk controllers. This has enabled the use of same OS image for test systems on retired HW as we use on production storage systems. No need for separate OS image with drivers from elrepo for test systems.
How it started
How it’s going
@spazcosoft Uninstalled it last year, after a continuous streak of 800+ days, exactly because it was being enshittified too much. I do not regret that decision, especially after I talked to a few friends who kept using it, and I learned what dumb things they added to the app since.
Burn in hell, Duolingo, for all your unthinking greed.
@ticho @spazcosoft I dropped it after they nuked the tree mode. Which might have been even before they announced "the platform shit is AI".
@richlv @spazcosoft Yeah, that change hurt, back then. But that wasn't the last straw for me, as the content I needed was still of good quality. I had just began to learn Arabic, and DL was great in teaching me the alphabet / writing system super quickly.
I've used that speed boost in further study of the language, and my course teachers were quite impressed. :)
@ticho @richlv @spazcosoft it's good for learning a new alphabet and ok for repeating things you've already learned elsewhere, but it's absolute dog shit at actually teaching you new things. Only thing you learn is how to play Duolingo. I wish I hadn't wasted so many hours on that app
@haaflife @richlv @spazcosoft I think it's decent at teaching you the very basic basics, but any even slightly less obvious grammar rules are a hit or miss, since you are left in the dark, and have to infer (guess) any rules from the example sentences.
In my case, I guessed many things right but also many things wrong, and I had to relearn those in the language class I started afterwards. :)
@ticho @richlv @spazcosoft I disagree. Especially for the basics, you need some explanation to understand concepts, not just repetitive games. Somebody needs to explain why this letter goes here in these cases and why that word changes. I never got that in Duolingo. Once I got these insights somewhere else, duo made some sense
@haaflife @ticho @richlv @spazcosoft it made me do Spanish from nothing and skip a few courses in uni when I took Spanish there.
It's great for vocabulary.
I could also write anki cards but that is more work..
I would view it as a vocabulary app.
Learning a language needs more exposure, like consuming media or talking to people. Just attending classes will not get you any closer either..
But I do dislike the new stuff they added the annoying animations that play all the time the weird games they make me do in between lessons
All that is quite annoying. So far I don't have a better alternative so I keep it going ig
@Ivikiwi2 @haaflife @richlv @spazcosoft For me, Anki cards is where it's at right now. Of course, that's just for vocabulary practice, I also attend language classes.
But for remembering the vocabulary, I found that it works wonders with my memory, and I'm remembering far more words, and for longer, than other students.
Plus, as a software developer, its structure - words as database entries, from which individual cards are created based on defined rules - speaks to me on another level. 😅
@ticho @spazcosoft It was the breaking point for me, as it seemed quite an obvious enshittification path. When they ignored the feedback and pushed through with the change, I endured for a couple of weeks, then walked away.
@ticho @spazcosoft I didn't use it for two years. What shit did they add?
@fuchsi @spazcosoft For me, the most egregious was the energy system, inspired by early facebook addiction games, where you can only do certain amount of actions (here lessons) per time unit, as each lesson costs you some "energy points".
So even if you do not make any mistakes and do not lose hearts, you can only do so many lessons in a day before you run out of energy... unless, of course, you pay for the premium plan.
End of Japanese community at Mozilla due to the introduction of AI-based translation.
The community members have expressed disappointment and frustration that their long term volunteer efforts and local knowledge were being replaced by machine translation, which they felt did not match the quality of human provided support.
This is why Mozilla sucks so much, they are going crazy like rest of the industry.
Source
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/forums/contributors/717446
Added screenshot in case Mozilla decided to remove it
@nixCraft It's endlessly frustrating to watch Mozilla sabotage themselves like this. Doubly so when Chromium is literally the only alternative.
Machine translation of a large document repository? That’s going to be a disaster. And I know Mozilla employs enough bilingual (or more) people to know that.
Every day, Mozilla leadership wakes up and thinks: "How can we piss off the tiny number of remaining users who are our biggest fans?" , all while C suites get millions in salary and add AI slop everywhere.
@nixCraft
Waiting desperately for Ladybird. We need alternatives. I used Firefox, when it was Mozilla still and the version number was <1. But I am so fed up with Mozilla nowadays.
@nixCraft Their next job will be at Google proper, considering how much they worked on increasing Chrome marketshare. 🤷
@nixCraft I'm pissed, they started putting ads in the form of bookmarks on their Firefox homepage for sites like Amazon...
@nixCraft also programmatic ads (!) which for now you can still turn off
https://blog.zgp.org/turn-off-programmatic-ads-in-firefox/
The Mozilla execs made a big deal out of this at Advertising Week in New York City recently, haven't been talking it up in community channels though...
@nixCraft and this is particularly bad for Japanese - MTL from/to that language are still often missing contextual cues and mistranslating things. It's no wonder contributors were pissed...
@nixCraft Mozilla can evidently hit their targets. Now if they could aim for something other than their foot for once...
@nixCraft maybe Mozilla agreed to more than use google by default and they need to use the AI crap google push into them so Google can later on say their AI helped open source in the next key note.
@nixCraft This is incredibly sad and disrespectful. I am baffled by Mozilla's choices. What a shame.
Correct way to use machine translations: state explicitly that documentation is not available in the language of choice, offer translator as a possible helper, ask for help.
Incorrect way to use machine translations: shove it in the middle of a human-centric process, ignoring humans involved in it.
I don’t like dealing with people, but there’s a certain trend here that makes even me look like a party person.
@nixCraft Not surprised at all. Mozilla is just another tech corporation from Silicon Valley. Most of their activities have been for profit so far. As much as they tried to jump on the anti-capitalist bandwagon back in the day, it was nothing more than just a desperate attempt to expand their market share, and also help Google look like less of a giant monopoly for a reason.
@nixCraft The replies from "Kiki" seem to me inconsiderate or insensitive. Marsf already listed their concerns and Kiki seems to want to talk about it to get the other person to accept AI. There's not even an apology and a revert in there.
Chatbots often have the same superficial friendliness and no clue about actual content. I hope that's not a sign Kiki outsourced their forum comments to AI.
AI translation would have made sense as a "This is machine translated, and needs human review", as a boilerplate for new and untranslated documents.
It would have been a way to get a first pass something out, which is better than nothing.
But deleting properly translated works?!? Thats fucking gross. Why bother, since some amateur LLM is going to obliterate your stuff.
Then again @mozilla has super lost their way for a decade now. I dont have much hope that they'll ever come around.
@nixCraft I’m not a specialist in the Japanese language, but with my low level I can already see that automatic translators give particularly bad results with this language, especially when it is the target language. (Obviously, what I’m saying is only in addition to all the other more fundamental problems that are being posed.)
@nixCraft Firefox is great. Way better than the rest.
Thank you firefox for a free, non-intrusive, non privacy-killer app.
@nixCraft "Crazy" isn't the word you want to use here, they go reactionary, throwing psychiatrized peopled under the bus doesn't help. 😞
@nixCraft Mozilla becomes one of the prime examples how to ignore their users and enshittify their products. Led by false assumptions and pressure from other players.
Hey I would pay for Firefox, even a subscription if its small enough.
But for that I would want to see my investments respected and used towards improving the Browser for the users. Listen to the Users. Make it secure and privacy friendly, leave all the rest to extensions the users can opt-in.
@nixCraft I feel my distrust in Mozilla confirmed. Too much focus on profit, too little focus on values and community.
@nixCraft, while I agree with the general sentiment about Mozilla, I want to point out that the post in the screenshot is talking about SUMO, which is the codename for Mozilla support website (SUpport.Mozilla.Org), not Mozilla as a whole. @jenskutilek
@nixCraft
this makes me want to laugh and cry at the same time.
A slap in the face to so many volunteers while saying "our AI knows better".
And actively lowering the quality of the documentation...
@nixCraft FFS, #mozilla. It's like you're actively trying to piss off your users.
Yes, machine translation is wonderful, but only for things that would never get translated otherwise.
I'm reminded of a conversation with a Swiss Italian collegue over the British English slang 'stingy'. The Italian equivalent translates literally to 'short arms' (as in can't reach their pockets). This does not compute for an AI model.
@nixCraft So we have AI and so we leave other languages behind and we go ahead with our stuff.
Fine, I want to see a real official AI movie/tv show just so I can confirm how bad AI cartoons are.
@nixCraft
This AI crap decisions really make me want to dodge Mozilla stuff... I will give Vivaldi another chance I guess
@nixCraft This is awful. Real. Awful. And as a person who hates lazy AI translations, even more awful.
@nixCraft This is EMBARRISSINGLY incompetent. I'm a long-year translator of #FreeSoftware (English→German) and know from experience about how error-ridding machine translation still can be. It's making improvements, but it's NOT good enough to replace humans. If you use MT, a human MUST sit at the end.
MTs eventually fail when it comes to context, which can often be critical. It's not enough to JUST look at the raw text to translate it.
Thus, MT-generated text must NEVER be auto-approved.
@nixCraft as Hayao Miyazaki said (when there was a storm of LLM-generated pictures reusing the Ghibli Studio art style):
"I strongly feel that this is an insult to life itself.
I feel like we are nearing the end of times. We humans are losing faith in ourselves."
I think this quote also fits in this situation with #MozillaFirefox too 
Three high severity CVEs in runc announced today https://seclists.org/oss-sec/2025/q4/138, which present a risk of container escape, worth making sure you're patching!
It's not necessarily widely known but runc is a core component in most Kubernetes clusters. Often times you don't install it directly but get it as part of other packages like containerd, but it is there launching all the containers in your cluster.
From a first read through of the advisories, one quote that particularly resonated with me :-
"it is very difficult, if not impossible, to run an untrusted program with root privileges safely."
It's been good advice for a long time to run containers as a non-root user and even where the container needs to run as root, with user namespace support available in Kubernetes, it's a lot easier to avoid the risks of running containers as the host root user!
Hello Fediverse!
We now have an account for Aurora on here :)
Our stable branch is getting ready to move from Fedora 42 to 43, hopefully next week. Also at the same time we are working on our new ISOs that will use the new Anaconda WebUI installer.
We hope to get this to "beta" stage with the F43 stable release.
Love to look at a customer console and see
Booting `CentOS (2.6.32-71.el6.i686)'
#LibreWolf v144.0.2-1 is now available!
https://codeberg.org/librewolf/bsys6/releases/tag/144.0.2-1
https://librewolf.net/installation/
No major changes from LibreWolf's end.
See https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/144.0.2/releasenotes/ for upstream changes.
@librewolf aaaand already updated :) "mv librewolf librewolf_back; curl ... | tar -xvJ" (and after testing rm...) is a really nice way to install updates...
Ever considered self-hosting a #Fediverse instance (#Mastodon, #Peertube etc.)
| Already do / planning to: | 3 |
| Want to, but lack technical skills: | 2 |
| Have skills, but lack time/resources: | 8 |
| Not interested / too risky: | 2 |
Already do. Multiple even.
Awesome! Much appreciated, keep up the good work!
Thank you! It is an honour to run lovely communities like Exquisite.social and Exquisite.tube. Above anything else, it gives me a bunch of energy and passion :)
Fun poll: What will come first?
| AGI: | 38 |
| FSD: | 89 |
| Year of Linux on Desktop: | 1281 |
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@nixCraft I didn't vote, but I think AGI will come first NOT BECAUSE it's the "AGI" that they have advertized, BUT BECAUSE they'll sell whatever they have when they have to sell AGI.
thank you! You see it too, right?
The desktop-revolution is ON. Hooray! 🥳
What's gained by still using "the european mainstream non-open america-OS"?
What powers "mobile-anything" devices?
What powers all the "free-or-premium" online services?
And modern gamers know if it runs on: #nix #kodi #arkos #foss #else? 💾 💠
I mean:
> I don't understand the question.
> Who is Agi, and is FSD a new radical party?
All the best! 🍀
@nixCraft The first two require major advancements in technology to ever actually work, while the last one only requires a major advancement in how disgusted everyone is by large platforms.
So I'm voting linux desktop. For years people have said that linux needs to get more user friendly for this to happen, but actually it will be windows/macos getting much much worse.
@nixCraft one could argue that there has been "full-self-driving" (grade of automation 4) transit systems for decades (e.g. kobe since 1981, lille since 1983, and vancouver since 1985) but it only works on grade separated lines. it turns out controlling the environment is very useful when one wants to make complex systems.
@nixCraft I love TLC, because no one knows exactly what they mean.
o Adventure Game Interpreter
o Female sexual dysfunction
o YLD?
Working in cybersecurity is weird.
“Wolfie where do you get your threat intel?”
“Gay furries on Mastodon.”
“What?”
“Well it’s a decentralised social network…”
“No stop are you saying we’re prioritising our cybersecurity activity based on what furries are shitposting?”
“Yes.”
“…”
“You want the good cybersecurity, yes?”
“Yes.”
“Right, so this week between the jokes about Copilot now looking like a blob of jizz with a face, the big topics are…”
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Word up (aaaow) it's the code word. No matter where you say it, you know that you'll be heard.
I ran out of spoons today, my Cholmondeleys. It was quite a bad one. Had a triple suckerpunch of 'things that I didn't love' happen, any one of which would have fully upended me. Fortunately my youngest is a wise old sage and said I should stop being sad and go to running club tonight. I begrudgingly (I seriously begrudged so hard) went, and had to run there and back because I'm currently carless (whisper). Horrible run there. Really miserable when I arrived. Had to engage in pleasant conversation with nice people who were nice to me (the fiends). Particularly as one of them FORCED me to write an article for the newsletter, which apparently went down well and so I had a few well-wishers. Then I ended up running with someone who I've always suspects thinks I'm a nob - she's basically a take no prisoners, suffer no fools type. Son's in the army and I suspect she thinks I'm an effete twat. She was really nice to me and I had a nice run and now I feel terrific. Stupid running. Have to watch Inside No9 now with kids. Peace! X
@TheBreadmonkey
I'm so glad you managed to be talked into going out to your running club and that it was an uplifting experience in the end. You're a winner!
Have a good night, my friend.
@TheBreadmonkey did you include something about the weekly change from running is awful I hate running to running is the best thing in the world?
I am a typical tea novice; I boil water and pour it over the tea bag (usually in a single cup).
I now most often make tea at work.
@alice though I do preheat my thermos bottle with boiling water before use - both for tea and coffee.
@alice The thermal mass of the water is always going to be several times that of the mug, so I'm not really worried about losing heat to the mug.
@alice no, though on the occasions I drink tea, it’s typically a Japanese/Chinese green tea, rather than the classic English cuppa
@alice I don't. And I primarily make green tea which benefits from a cooler steep temperature anyway.
@alice (please let me know if I start rambling...) Okay so, it really depends on the tea whether or not you want or should. In contrast to what might seem to be the case, certain types of tea actually prefer "cooler" water - instead of near boiling. It can in fact severely alter the taste. Though not always, the more younger and floral the taste the lower the temperature should be. If it's dried tea leaves, it usually is higher (closer to boiling)
That said, the proces of preheating your cup...
@alice
No, but I do sometimes preheat my thermos.
My trick is that the kettle heats the water to 100C, but the tea only needs around 70C. So I pour some of the water into the thermos, heating up while cooling the water slightly. I then use the water for the first cup of tea, and pour the remaining 100C water into the thermos.
That makes the thermos keep the water hot for longer, and the slightly colder water is better for brewing tea.
@alice I tend to drink green tea, so it's not really ideal that the temperature be too hot anyway.
But I do my actual steeping with loose leaf in a separate mini kettle made of a thin glass, so it pretty much reaches full temperature right away anyway.
@alice So, I don't steep my tea in the cup. I steep enough for two cups at a time, in a... okay, it's technically also a cup, but not what you were talking about. It's one of those 22 oz. stainless-steel-outside, plastic-interior keeps-heat-in coffee cups. Anyway, I just throw boiling water over tea bags in that, then when it's steeped, I put a couple of ice cubes in my actual tea cup and pour the still-too-hot tea over that, then it's cool enough to drink.
@alice a. There needs to be an option that just says "What?"
b. I now believe I am not a "tea drinker."
@alice I always boil enough water to warm the cup first. I honestly don’t know if it makes a difference, but I do it anyway.
@alice
I sometimes rinse my mug with boiling water to get rid of small leaves and whatnot (I don't clean it after every use), but not specificaly to prefeat it.
ADHD: I struggle with repetitive things
Autism: I struggle with new things
AuDHD: I struggle...
The weekend is close, I don't feel like I have energy to work on my little(?) game, so I'm going to try and do the weirdest Windows 3.1 setup out there.
@nina_kali_nina If all else fails, I've recently installed Win 3.11 and Win95 on a 386SX-16 with mTCP's amazing netdrive.
@nina_kali_nina 3.11 on 6.20 > 3.1 on 6.22
@nina_kali_nina I installed this combination a few times. During this phase of my life, frequent impressions somehow burned themselves into my brain, so that even today, when I am reminded of them and close my eyes, I can still see them like an afterimage on my retina. A bit like a catchy tune. So thank you for that. 😁
@nina_kali_nina never installed win3.11. thx for reminding me. 486 would be appropriate, yes? :)
First step of getting cool Win 3.1 install these days is VBESVGA driver. Kudos to https://github.com/PluMGMK/vbesvga.drv
I think 16M colours looks pretty great, but it is noticeably slower than 256 colours.
@nina_kali_nina Real hardware? I recently ran Win95/3.11 on a VLB S3 968 with 4MB RAM on 1280x1024x64k and 1600x1200x256 ... in fact ran quite snappy (but I also blame that on the Pentium Overdrive running at 100MHz).
I should still give that driver a try ... the ATI VGA wonder drivers for Win 3.11 never worked on my 386SX-16.
@lunte161 for my twisted purposes, I'm running it in a really fast emulator. But I really should've started it on a Pentium 3 I have in storage...
@nina_kali_nina That's ok :) Also have 95/98/XP virtual machines with the later getting some actual use rather often (runs an older Altera Quartus + Programmer since I never upgraded from the LPT Byteblaster)
If you follow me, you probably know that there's an open-source clone of Windows NewShell for 3.1 called Calmira. There's a version called Calmira XP, which looks really out of the place on 3.1. But my goal is to get the most unhinged, sick, abominable, overpowered and power-hungry Windows 3.1 install, so here we go.
A bit of a technicality, but it makes a lot of sense in terms of UX: doslfn to add Long File Name support in Calmira, and IFA to add Long File Name support to the basic Windows applications.
And while we're at it, let's get some sort of a wallpaper. This one is 256 colours, because Paintbrush 3.x and Paint 95+ aren't really compatible, and the only way I can convert images to this old system (for now) is ImageMagick gif 256 colours -> pcx -> bmp
Shocking Windows 3.1 development continues. Now I have win32s, which will allow me to run some Win32 applications on top of DOS and Win16 kernel. Freecell looks like any other app, but it is Win32 app, very MVP.
And IE 5.0 is being installed but still needs a bit of tweaking. It has a 128-bit encryption module, but it's useless, because no one supports SSL anymore.
Note WinRAR behind the IE50 installer.
@nina_kali_nina Don't forget 16-bit Flash plugin, though zombo.com unfortunately doesn't serve the .swf file any more.
@jernej__s there are sites that still do, but HTTPS is going to be an issue
@nina_kali_nina "Microsoft VM for Win 3.1/Win NT 3.51" oh goodness, I had no idea that existed... somehow I assumed that the Forbidden JVM™ was exclusive to the 32-bit OSes.
(This is 16-bit IE5, right? Or is IE5 one of the 32-bit applications for which you installed Win32s?)
@dgelessus I know, right? Impressive :) This is a 16-bit IE5; I think 32-bit IE5 requires too much stuff from Windows 98.
It's taking longer than it should have, but I have working TCP/IP on Windows 3.1, and it plays along with IE 5.0. Google stopped supporting IE5 recently, but I learned about Wiby not that long ago, and I like it.
But we're far from being done.
@nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt woah wiby looks cool
also i suppose google want to cut down on having so many legacy code paths
@tauon they used to take pride in supporting legacy browsers, but it was done by a single volunteer or something. Kind of like Facebook-over-Tor.
@nina_kali_nina Ohh, I’d completely forgotten about my old hobby of editing the registry to add personal messages to the IE title bar!
Okay, this is the most cursed Windows 3.1 screenshot so far. I'm not saying things are working, but I'm not saying they're not working either. Sort of a limbo.
@nina_kali_nina makes me want to make a NetZero simulator that gives you a random bad banner ad or whatever that you can't remove from your screen in exchange for functional networking. Homebrew malware? hm.
@nina_kali_nina
Wow, imagine showing this to someone in '92.
@FritzAdalis some rich people had SVGA displays in 1992 :) But yeah, impressive
@nina_kali_nina
idk I had svga in '92 and I was broke. It's easy when you make bad financial decisions.
Sometimes it feels like Microsoft intentionally made Win32s incompatible with lots of apps (or the other way around). Only Calc and Real Audio player from Windows 95 are working with Win32s - even Freecell doesn't. Despite it being almost the same thing as Freecell shipped with Win32s itself.
Woah, a CD-based game for Windows 3.1! Released in 1997, "Pilot Bros" comes with win32s on the CD, and has music, video and audio that all work under Windows 3.1. From what I can tell, it is highly inspired by Gobliiins
@nina_kali_nina Wait. You haven't seen this before?
@dosnostalgic Correct. I was told that it wouldn't work on our 486 with EGA. I bet the game would complain about the video mode...
@nina_kali_nina Yeah, there could have been a few issues. 🤔
@nina_kali_nina Huh, I didn't know 1С made games too, I had only known about their, uh, other business.
Day 2 of abnormal Windows 3.1 functions. Internet Explorer 5 decided to stop working after I tweaked some thing, so it's Netscape Navigator time. It looks so sleek...
(What you're seeing here is Windows 3.1 with Calmira XP shell that adds taskbar and desktop, and a VBESVGA driver)
There is an X11 server for Windows 3.1, but it only supports telnet or rsh. I think some of my X11 apps would have been working, if only my network was working correctly.
While I'm thinking about other unhinged things to do with this half-broken unusual Windows 3.1 install, here's some QuickTime for you.
As mentioned before, Windows 3.1 has very limited compatibility with 32-bit applications, including Paint from Windows 95. However, it can run Paint from Chicago just fine. It cannot run Chicago's Notepad, but Paint sort of works. Neat.
@nina_kali_nina Nice! Should also try the 32bit Apps from NT 3.x and 4x 😊
@elosha NT 3 NewShell was a flop, and NT 4 is two years newer than Chicago, so I don't have much hopes about it...
Okay, this totally should count as an abomination. I associate Space Cadet Pinball with Windows XP, because it was not shipped with Windows 95/98 by default.
But this Space Cadet is actually a win32s application from 1995, and works just fine on Windows 3.1. It looks especially "normal" because of Calmira XP adding Windows XP decorations to Win 3.1. The only tell is window title bars. Woah.
@nina_kali_nina would 3D Movie Maker even work on that setup of yours? I'm intrigued by the heck of a monster you created there.
@Ronflaix it very well might, released in 1995, so there are chances it wasn't using DirectX just yet!
Edit: yes, it's WinG, should totally work on Windows 3.1
@nina_kali_nina while it's now open source thanks to @foone and al. (https://github.com/microsoft/Microsoft-3D-Movie-Maker) I don't know if that version of the repo would be helpful to compile a Win16 version.
Though, in my laptop there's still the CD for the French version I kept forgetting I'd eventually dump for Foone. Would that even be helpful in any case for testing?
Edit: should be in the tray. I have to check later
@nina_kali_nina
I presently associate Space Cadet Pinball with anything that has a CPU
@ozzelot these days, yeah...
Okay, I figured out what to do with the network, and I have semi-working X11 on my abomination of Windows 3.1. It is so unstable I had to reboot at least 20 times to take these two screenshots.
@nina_kali_nina wait just a second...x11, on windows, whaaaaat?
@esoteric_programmer there is also X11 server for DOS. It only supports old versions of X11, so it's suitable for period-correct access to SunOS and such.
@nina_kali_nina @esoteric_programmer Pointers? It's not DV/X, right? Even OS/2 has an X server - PMX - which I'm using daily^Wweekly :D
@ltning @esoteric_programmer there was Desqview/X, yes, but there was also Xappeal - a commercial fork of XFree86 with no sources
@nina_kali_nina Next make it run a VM, running Solaris running Internet Explorer ^^
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AoyQeUzbEU
I was trying to do something about Java on Windows 3.1, and I sort of did. First things first, JRE doesn't work. Even when forced to install, it doesn't work. It relies on MSVCRT and long file name support in the kernel, which... Is not great. But I won't give up.
Both Netscape 4 and IE 5.0 have Java 1.1 support, so I can run some Java programs if I explain the browsers how to run them.
But there aren't that many Java 1.1 programs, are there...
While I'm thinking about Java on Windows 3.1, here are some more unusual things for my cursed setup: fMSX, an emulator of an MSX/MSX2 home computer, and notGNU - an emacs clone.
There are many interesting programs for Win3.1 I'm skipping for now, like Photoshop, or CorelDraw, or POVRAY and various 3D editors, or MathCad, or AutoCAD...
But those are programs that people used to run "normally". This time I'm trying to find rare gems or do things that most people won't :D
Windows 95 Paint still couldn't handle my 24-bit BMP, so I had to install Photoshop and convert the wallpaper into Win-3.1-24-bit-BMP with it. Now this Win3.1 install is 20% cooler.
Huh. I didn't know 95 changed the BMP format.
@argv_minus_one worse still, Windows 3.0 and Windows 3.1 BMP aren't always compatible. And then there are OS/2 BMPs...
Was it *backward* compatible, at least?
(By “backward compatible” I mean Windows 95 can read BMPs from 3.1, 3.1 can read BMPs from 3.0, etc.)
@argv_minus_one generally, yes!
@nina_kali_nina @argv_minus_one
A reference on BMP types.
Includes a version that is: vaguely specified, never seen in a wild, not created by anything, read by a single program (from the reference's author).
Yes, it's never that simple!
https://entropymine.com/jason/bmpsuite/bmpsuite/html/bmpsuite.html
@nina_kali_nina I said it yesterday and I say it today, this is soooo coooool!!
Please never delete this installation (is it a VM? or actual hardware?)
@apposada thanks! I think this installation is meant to be a lesson and not an artifact:) so, most likely, I'll delete it one day~
@nina_kali_nina Hmmmmm...... Now I have the feeling that I really should fix my old tower...
The main board in it died, but I already had a replacement.
Exchangeable disks, at least disk sets for W98SE and DR-DOS.
@AngelaScholder why not multiple disks and multiboot? ;)
@nina_kali_nina LOL! Different era. That system in the configuration it is, I guess is 25 years old. Maybe a little less.
The tower originally is from '93, initially an AMD 386DX40 with an extra large 170MB disk, via 486DX4-120 to I think it's a P166 installed now.
Disks probably between 1.2GB to 2GB.
Yep, that tower definitely has some history.
Doing the changes, install new things incl. OS certainly was a lot of fun and learning.
Also Red Hat a while in the 90s, OS/2 2.1, Warp.
@nina_kali_nina why a clone of emacs when you can set up vim? According to https://www.mirrorservice.org/pub/vim/pc/README vim 7.3 was the last version to ship a win32s build. I'm not sure if you can just run the setup program or if you need to assemble an install from the binary and runtime archives
@pulkomandy I have real Emacs too, it just doesn't work. :(
@nina_kali_nina it looks like there is a version of Smalltalk also: https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=2244
@nina_kali_nina I wonder if you could get the original 2001 release of RuneScape to run in Java 1.1
@CursedSilicon if it used to run on Java 1.1 and available, it would run!
@nina_kali_nina *Apparently* (read: Googling it real quick) it needed Java 1.1.5?
Or at least the RS Wiki linked to that version
So maaaaaybe?
@CursedSilicon that could be a biiit difficult but I'll see what I can do
@nina_kali_nina At the time, Microsoft wanted people to move from 3.1 to 95, so they intentionally did not support Java on 3.1. But IBM still had OS/2 with Windows support, so IBM itself came out with a version of Java for Windows 3.x. MS was pissed. So there might be the IBM version of Java still floating out there somewhere.
@charette Editing for clarity: in 1996-97? Absolutely. But shortly after both MS and Netscape shipped browsers with JVM, so, my IE 5 has Java support, and in fact better Java support than Windows 95B had out of the box. :> But for some reason it doesn't want to accept signed jar files.
@charette this is nice info, thanks!
@nina_kali_nina Why say "that's not true"? I was working at IBM at the time. I was an OS/2 developer back then.
@charette that's because I misunderstood your message, sorry. At first I read "at that time" as "back in the 90s" in general, not "when java was hotness of 96-97". But that's not what you meant...
@nina_kali_nina is this a cry for help
@thomholwerda thankfully everything is okay now :D I'm not planning to port Java to a weird platform _again_, not this time
@nina_kali_nina I associate it with Windows NT 4 because the first time I encountered it was on my father's Windows NT 4 work laptop. 😌
@nina_kali_nina I mostly played this on Windows 95, but IIRC it wasn't included with the OS. You had to get "Plus!", which also included Hover!
Well, now I want a Windows 3.1 theme for KDE Plasma.
@argv_minus_one why Plasma when you can use all your KDE apps with progman: https://github.com/jcs/progman
@nina_kali_nina I never used XP, but I played Space Cadet Pinball because it shipped with NT4. I’m really surprised it worked with win32s and NT but not the systems that were half way between the two.
@david_chisnall I suppose it works on 9x, but it wasn't a part of the standard distribution.
I also blame my mild pinball addiction on this game.
@nina_kali_nina im not sure if i was aware that windows 3.1 programs run on xp would still have the old title bar
@kirakira the buttons in the bar were a part of a video driver in Win16 (what? yes!) so the apps running in Win32 will have default boring title bars
@nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt does this mean you can reexport the wallpaper in glorious full colour
@tauon I can... should I?
@nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt it would be cool. might help sell the windows xp look more too i think there's also a program that lets you edit the icons in the title bar but i can't find it by searching
@tauon the driver is open source, so at least in theory it should be possible to recompile. I can also edit the resources manually. But I don't think resources will look very good...
@nina_kali_nina a game of Operation: Inner Space?
https://sdispace.com/index.html
That was still supporting Windows 3.1 in the year 2022
@nina_kali_nina Omg I had to wait 2025 and know this !! When i'll have some time I'll test with a 3.11 VM with TCP/IP or with my real 3.11 computer...!!
@scalonnec for the record: I have TCP/IP working, but it is 86 Box SLiRP - I need proper networking, otherwise my VM isn't visible from outside. I have bridging working in Qemu, but Xonnet (and other Win32s apps) doesn't work in Qemu. :< I hope you'll have better result on a real PC!
@nina_kali_nina @scalonnec Bridging in 86box should work just fine, you just need to install npcap in winpcap-compatible mode.
@jernej__s @scalonnec I'm on Mac OS :<
@nina_kali_nina @scalonnec PCap should work on macOS, too, according to the docs.
@nina_kali_nina I recall using WeirdX on 95 or 98 back then, but do we have a JVM for 3.1? 😅
https://web.archive.org/web/20250220140358/jcraft.com/weirdx/
@mmu_man we have JVM that is shipped with IE50. I'm not sure if it has everything necessary to run this one....
I have a question that I have unanswered since 1994. How do you achieve those pseudo-3D look on the forms under windows 3.1? Most of the time they appear boring, white, flat. But some apps like MS Word, somehow, achieve the (I don't really know the name on English) grayish raised 3D windows, with real buttons and widgets.
I was told it's win32s, but I don't remember MS Word being shipped with that.
@beckermatic the buttons are drawn in software, different UI toolkits draw buttons differently. There were at least toolkits from MS and Borland. I suppose Word used something similar!
@nina_kali_nina putty and X forwarding ?
@nina_kali_nina thoroughly enjoying this thread, thanks! :)
So... how come your copy of Netscape is German?
Personal preference, random chance, the only archived version, or something else entirely?
@usuallyharmless it was on a website with cute win32s applications. I don't mind German versions, I've used German Windows 95 for a short while.
@nina_kali_nina I might still have a couple games for 3.1... Myst for sure, I'll have to search for more. LMK if You're interested in ISO images...
I have disquettes too, if they even still work. I recall a project to recover old diskettes that used advanced recovery techniques... I still have a few 3.5in drives and an open slot on my computer :)
PM if interested.
@nina_kali_nina oh my gods
on 3.1
this is the purest - i don't need to tell you, but I'm just saying - of batshittery, well done
it wasn't intentional incompatibility tho', it was that getting win32s to happen _at all_ in a 3.1 framework was a nightmare but we (msft) needed some way to give access to full 32-bit to keep certain classes of app developers interested in windows when NT and 95 weren't even CLOSE to ready
"remember, the 's' stands for 'sux'" comes out of microsoft systems group, i am just telling you
(see also intel 386sx but win32s was, well)
(95 was a whole story in and of itself, team NT was lying a LOT about when they could deliver and 95 kinda started as a rogue project)
my brain hurts just looking at this xD
@moira fair enough, fair enough :D I remember the biggest pain of Win32s vs non-Win32s exe was how dynamic loading was implemented?
@nina_kali_nina I was not directly involved but I knew people who were and yes, that was absolutely part of it. Did learn a lot from the experience, though; that's part of why Win95 worked so well. Win32s may've had the suck but set, but Win95 was a goddamn miracle.
There ended up being a lot of hidden "thunker" DLL layers which would invisibly interact between the two user spaces and serve as translators, and also minimise the number of mode transitions, which was incredibly important for processor architecture reasons. (The mode switching was _not fast_ so if you didn't get _very clever_ with it, you'd drop _so much_ performance on the floor. Minimising mode transitions was critical.)
or that's how I remember it, anyway.
@nina_kali_nina PARTICULARLY if you had to drop to real mode, which you almost always had to do if you were doing ANYTHING network related. Going to "real" (8088) mode and back was... 100% _yikes_.
@moira at least it wasn't targeting a 286 CPU with no* return from the protected mode :D
@nina_kali_nina win32s, "windows on windows?" Win32 subsystem? remaps win32 API calls to win16, does the same for callbacks, runs each 32 bit process in its own protected memory space (I think). Was designed so you could write a single app for Windows 3.x and Windows NT 3.1, probably as soon as windows 95 "chicago" shipped they stopped work on it-so any new API call added is missing
Win95 is its own ugly hack considering the kernel itself runs on DOS.
@stevel close but not quite. Win32s cannot overcome win16 kernel limitations, therefore requires programs to have a relocation section, and doesn't offer any stronger protections than original win16 apps have. Win95 is far nicer than Win32s in terms of implementation!
@nina_kali_nina explorer.exe under win32s looks better than progman.exe did under 95-98 (I can't remember if it was present in ME, having never used it (thank Godzilla!))
@avatastic I couldn't run explorer.exe from Win95, perhaps I need a newshell version from NT....
@nina_kali_nina ahhh, there was thread preceding what I replied to.
Of course I should have recognised that as XP (and thusly a clone) rather than 9x explorer.exe.
I'd not expect much, if anything NT based to run under win32s.
Something from OS/2 otoh...
@nina_kali_nina I guess you could curse the browser with all the malware toolbars you can find or is that too easy?
anyway, with that thought i think i'll leave you with a nos da.
(:
@avatastic it would be difficult, because all the malware expects win32! :D I don't think there were any bars supporting IE5 on Win16
@nina_kali_nina Makes sense that browser extensions wouldn't be made compatible, it'd be a great way to force people into the ActiveX plugin ecosystem.
@nina_kali_nina It is relatively embarrassing how bad x11/xfree86 was at color map management compared to windows 3.1 on 8bpp VGA.
@vestige @nina_kali_nina There‘s a difference, as X11 gives each Window its own palette, opposing to Windows, a standard palette was used for the whole screen and developers could pre-dither their images for perfection.
There are X11 versions that, together with the right apps, deliver a palette that looks like the current window has 16bpp, perfect, obviously the rest of the screen colours glitches out.
@nina_kali_nina how in hell did you get the XP panel in 3.1? Cursed is an understatement!
@justin it is not me, the work is all done by Calmira XP creators. This is basically a thing that is made from scratch in Pascal. IIRC it still worked in Windows 10, so it might be a nice lightweight alternative to JavaScript Start menu in Windows 11.
@nina_kali_nina does https://html.duckduckgo.com/html work? It's HTML only.
@justin the problem is usually HTTPS, not HTML versions, but I'll give it a try in a moment.
@justin yep, html.duckduckgo.com refuses to talk over HTTP
@nina_kali_nina IIRC the application providing TCP/IP on Windows 3.1 was called Trumpet Winsock or something like that, is that what you used?
Edit: It was right there on the screenshot 😀
@nina_kali_nina OTOH that taskbar looks nothing like what I recall from 3.1...
@dermoth this is Calmira XP, there wasn't any toolbar in 3.1, and that's the point of this pointless exercise :D
@nina_kali_nina are you familiar with @jwz's "Run Some Old Web Browsers" work? https://www.jwz.org/blog/2008/03/happy-run-some-old-web-browsers-day/
@nina_kali_nina Throwing it out there since it might be a fun addition for a cracked out Win3.11 install
Me and other folks are putting together a whole ass "retro internet" service. Win3.11 and IE 5 are roughly the "minimum level of supported" I've been personally testing
https://wiki.cursedsilicon.net/wiki/Compu-Global-Hyper-Mega-Net
@CursedSilicon hmmm, I have much smaller systems, like 8 and 16 bits, would it make sense to access the retro thing you're making from them?
@nina_kali_nina there is also http://frogfind.com/, wonder if it works in your extremely cursed Win31
@glebd it used to have issues for the last 6 months, last time I checked it was down. Glad that it's back, and of course it works!
@nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt also i wonder if you could backport paint 95 to 3.1
@tauon I think it is possible, and I will try.
@nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt oh wait of course, there's that compatibility layer thing, right?
@nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt oh. you can't do that without the source code obviously. which is illegal and i would never suggest illegal things
@nina_kali_nina this is genuinely so cool, I need mainstream UIs/UXs to take a look back into what they used to be.
@nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt also, what's with this thing that looks like a jpeg? or did they just convert it to a bmp in a different way
@nina_kali_nina Playing along on real hardware ...finally gave Calmira a spin after being aware of it for almost 20 years.
@lunte161 niiiice! Thanks for sharing! Any cool/sick hacks I should try? :)
@nina_kali_nina Have to admit my Win 3.11 expertise is quite limited. MicroMan is a slightly entertaining game tho with an interesting backstory and developer.
@lunte161 oh, I never heard about it! But it looks interesting.
@nina_kali_nina Started out as a techdemo for flicker free animation for Windows and got a modern remake in the early 2000s. Used to be quite popular as a shareware game "back then". The developer later worked on Blood.
@nina_kali_nina I don't (yet) follow you, but I do have like two computers with a Win 3.x installed. Unfortunately IIRC Calmira needs a 386 or I'd have put it on the 286 with Win 3.1 :P
(The other 3.x is a WFW 3.11 on a Pentium 233 with 256MB of RAM ... that thing never really runs out of RAM, you just run out the 16-bit segment descriptors, which i just find so funny)
@urja Calmira is written in Pascal, and the sources are available, so it should be possible to recompile it for 286. However, it is very slow even on my 386 machines, so I wouldn't recommend. :)
@nina_kali_nina I did not know. But now I had to test. This is indeed cursed.
@ltning I should patch the video driver to change the appearance of the UI even further to make it even more cursed xD
@nina_kali_nina Speaking of video drivers - is it true that the only way to tell a Windows 3.x driver to use small fonts at high resolutions is to patch the driver itself - meaning that each video driver has to be patched individually?
As you can see the window controls in Win-OS/2 are obscenely large. It uses the same size for everything 1024 and up, so at 1024 the controls take up like a quarter of the screen. :D
@ltning it's not exactly true but not false either; each driver installs their own bitmap system fonts, but it is possible to overwrite the fonts from a different driver on an existing system.
@nina_kali_nina I don't have anything fun or smart to say but I love this! It is definitely wrong somehow. I will try to keep up with your posts now, that background image was cool.
@nina_kali_nina I was there 3000 years ago when Windows 3.1 was unleashed on the world and the age of VESA drivers began.
@sashabilton except there _wasn't_ a real VESA driver for Windows 3.1 a year ago. The driver I'm using was released on the 15th of December 2024.
@nina_kali_nina am I having false memory syndrome? (3000 years is quite a long time). I have this memory of installing vespa drivers and them scrolling by on startup on my '93 486 DX.
@sashabilton there were SVGA drivers for _some_ cards, but the majority of SVGA cards were released in Win95+ era and didn't have Windows 3.1 drivers. There was a VESA patch for Windows 3.1, but it breaks DOS-mode support and still doesn't work on many cards.
@nina_kali_nina my machine at that point was a homebrew, as I was at uni and building your own computer was a bit of ritual. I seem to remember having a high end graphics card, and I probably had a boot to dos disk config that disabled vesa, to play Master Of Magic in 1994.
@nina_kali_nina Nice.. I bet it's not as slow as installing Windows 3.0 on a 8086 (640kb).
And against all bets and common sense it actually worked... somewhat (have to be patient while it slowly draw that window, then crunch for a while to display each icon!)
On top of not having enough RAM I still had to load hymem.sys (I think?) that not only did not allow any of that memory above 640kb to be accessed (since it wasn't there) but also reduced the remaining RAM available 🤦
@dermoth Windows 3 on an XT is a pain, yes. But there is meaning in having himem on a XT: it is possible to have a EMS card, and Windows really, really hoped you'd get it :D
@nina_kali_nina Thank you for this. I have a netbook with FreeDos and could try to install Win 3.11.
@zbrando I have to say that FreeDos is a fair deal slower than MS-DOS, unfortunately :( But it is still fun!
@nina_kali_nina Oh really? I didn't have time to try it really well and compare. How do you install MS DOS and Win 3.11 on "modern" hardware without floppies?
@zbrando that's a very general question :D there are many options, common would be local network, USB and CD. My weapon of choice would be installing grub on USB, using floppy emulator in it to boot into DOS, format the hard disk and install the OS, and finally bring the USB drivers to DOS - either with a custom floppy image, or by booting into a live Linux.
@nina_kali_nina I wonder if Microsoft ever sent out that FREE Windows newsletter, and if any scans of it exist
Finnish broadcasting company (YLE) started this year's Pentulive on Tuesday. It is a live stream following English springer spaniel Muru and her 11 puppies, who were born on Tuesday.
If you need something nice to replace endless doomscrolling, here's an alternative for you ☺️
https://areena.yle.fi/1-76362374
#pentulive #koirat #dogs #DogsOfMastodon #puppies #spaniel #EnglishSpringerSpaniel
Episode 66 of Linux Matters: Terminal Full of Sparkles 🐧️🎙️
Martin found a fancy alternative to apt, Mark debugged his car charger, and Alan moved from Plex to Jellyfin.
@linuxmatters Hey guys, thanks for the pointer to nala. The color-coded explanations are very helpful for noobs! (While I have been running Ubuntu for seven years now, and have pi's all over the house, I feel that I will be a perpetual linux noob.) Love the show.
Ok.. I still need to fill a few gaps, but my sleeper build is working great and honestly has great airflow and temps seem good.
I'm running #bazzite #linux on it and it's running things like Forza horizon on ultra with no thermal issues.
I'm curious, what are some ways to benchmark or stress the system to see the thermal limits of the GPU and CPU? How does one test this besides throwing games at it?
Is there a standard bench-marking tool?
@codemonkeymike On windows I always used FurMark and Prime95
But using that inside of any virtualization layer is not a good idea I think ...
GPU seems to be: https://www.geeks3d.com/gputest/ if asked in https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxquestions/comments/x4jleb/whats_a_gpu_stress_test_or_benchmark_software_for/
For CPUs seems to be "stress" https://linux.die.net/man/1/stress
@codemonkeymike "sleeper"?
I have an Ubuntu server with steam set up to run headless. I just turn it on with wake on lan, and have a wireguard connection from my phone.
Coupled with my backbone one that makes for at excellent gaming experience
@rasmus91 sleeper like it looks like a bone stock Pentium 4 windows XP machine. But inside is a liquid cooled i9 and Nvidia 1080ti
It's silly but fun
@codemonkeymike yeah, that's fun.
I have an i9 too (9th gen, but still)
But my graphics card is an GTX 970 😅
Its not quite up to snuff anymore
@codemonkeymike for GPUs I've used Unigine benchmarks/demos: https://benchmark.unigine.com/ and for CPUs I've used PerformanceTest: https://www.passmark.com/products/performancetest/index.php. Both run on Linux of course, although PerformanceTest depends on an old version of ncurses.
@codemonkeymike
phoronix test suite
I used to run Linux on all my home machines back in the day, but in recent years I've been a really basic boy with a Windows 10 machine that's used for:
- Steam, GoG and Epic games launchers
- Web browser (esp. watching streaming video)
- Email client
I think the time has come to ditch Windows again. With which Linux distro am I going to have the best “plug and play” experience?
@krans I recall @gamingonlinux had an article a while back showing that many Windows games now ran better on Linux, with proton, than they did natively on Win11
@krans
Mint or Fedora probably. I prefer Mint (Debian Edition) as it just works for me with no fucking around. I don't have much experience of using Fedora but people who prefer rpm based systems wax on about it being good out of the box.
Have your personal data been exposed in a company's personal data breach?
| Yes: | 2190 |
| Maybe later: | 1043 |
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@neil Most likely (almost) everyone using Internet has been exposed in some of the many data breaches.
https://haveibeenpwned.com lists 15,109,169,472 accounts from 911 websites & data leaks. That is a lot, and there likely are millions more than that.
@autiomaa @neil I've been thinking the same thing, almost all these "Maybe later" answers either don't know their data has been exposed or live in the forest, bartering for anything they need and with with nothing more than one email account and their fediverse account (luckily neither of which were broken yet).
You don't even have to be online, lots of data breaches happened though banks, credit scoring agencies, insurers, utilities, etc. even if all you ever used was plain paper and mail.
@neil Looks like 32% (currently) of the people responding to this poll are unaware that their personal data have been exposed in a data breach. 😉
(There are two kinds of people on the Internet. People whose data has been exposed in a breach, and people who don't know their data has been exposed in a breach.)
@neil *tries to count the number of times they got something in the mail about a data breach*
Am American.
@neil Mine has been exposed a negative number of times, but that might be because I kept a count in a signed integer and it's overflowed.
@neil You seem to have placed this as a "yes/no" question; I was thinking more of a slider how many, or a set of options going at least into multiple dozens, to capture the fidelity of companies losing your data scot-free.
@neil my medical data is floating around on the dark web somewhere weeee. 🙃
https://www.dutchnews.nl/2025/08/cancer-screening-hack-far-bigger-than-thought-agency-says/
@neil I'm pretty sure every US citizen has had their data exposed if they're over the age of 20-something. The credit leaks in the 2010s were so bad that it exposed about 1/3rd of the citizen's data and we never heard directly about which people in particular were impacted. Most adults were advised to freeze their credit and to only thaw when planning to make a big purchase (which is generally good advice in the states anyway.)
@neil I remember getting letters from both the MOD (Armed Forces recruitment data breach / laptop left on a train) and the Student Loans Company, both in early-2010s, about potentially having had my personal data breached.
That's right... I was doing it before GDPR came along and everyone else started thinking it was cool and doing it too.
@neil someone logged into my Discord and spammed crypto ads to every server I was a member of, ironically when I was in the middle of getting rid of old passwords and migrating to KeePassXC. I just forgot Discord.
@neil @lisamelton Does the US government count as a company? If so, every US citizen is a yes just in the last year.
And like others have said, it’s likely that just about anyone with any online or credit exposure should be a yes before that and worldwide.
@neil none, that I was made aware of (or got aware from data abuse). However, browsing standard tracker-poisend websites is kind of such a breach, even if legalized by most jurisdictions...
@neil shamely i have been exposed twice this year for what i know,
- french administration of unemployment let go datas of 10 millions people including personnel adresses, phone contact, etc.
- telecom leader Bouygues Telecom had to admit that they have let a leak in personal datas of their customers.
@neil I take « company » and raise you « my government » with a side of « on more than one occasion »
@neil ah damn it i should've voted "yes" but years of dealing with "yes or remind me later" type shit from tech companies has trained me to just automatically hit the later button on sight
@neil I believe the answer should be basically 99% yes. Since a lot of people don't even know about the data breach.
But trust me, your data has been breached already.
@neil
Ben Türkiye'de yaşıyorum. Bizim kişisel verilerimize erişmek, buzdolabındaki süte erişmek kadar kolay.
I live in Türkiye. Accessing our personal data is easy as accessing the milk in the refrigerator.
Lenovo Thinkpad X220, small portable fast linux laptop £60
#ebay
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/146864526532?
They said in their release notes that this license key program has been wildly successful but I wish they were transparent about exactly how well this funding model is working. I'd like to see some real numbers.
Time for a second attempt at moving off google photos maybe…
I moved all our data out of Apple Photos / iCloud. First round was my own manual method, then I learned you can request a backup of your data from Apple and they'll email you special download links to giant Zip files. Those can natively be imported by the immich-go cli program.
All my RAW photos are NFS mounted readonly and added as an "External Library" so it can't mess with them.
On my phone I made an iOS Shortcut that can auto add-to-album real photos I took and not just memes I saved, and then only those are synced. Makes it easier to keep the garbage from getting into my photo archive.
@sam You've only just learned that? 🤣 I learnt that a while ago.
3x72: in which the OpenSSF are making some noise about how open infrastructure is not sustainable, and they have some thoughts... and so do we!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCf75M-Mspc
https://badvoltage.org/3x72
Roses are red
Violets are blue
To save and quit vim
Use :wq
@neil And yet one should definitely say
as a proper preamble
if you use the w blindly, do so and pray
because that is a serious gamble.
Windows is low on memory at Heathrow airport…
Cc: @slowe@mastodon.me.uk
Here’s a screen at Starbucks with a double whammy of Windows that isn’t activated and a crashed application.
This is a pretty sad hobby but I’m enjoying myself and so I will continue.
@sam keep up the good work. Here's my entry #brokenpubliccomputers
Openreach Give ISPs 48 Hours to Remove Lithium Batteries from UK Exchanges https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2025/09/openreach-give-isps-48-hours-to-remove-lithium-batteries-from-uk-exchanges.html
@ispreview Wow that's going to be tricky - there are some SAN systems which have an embedded UPS in each SAN head and rely on them for consistency.
I don't mean the little cache batteries either; chunky ones like: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/185128363545
I wonder which exchange set on fire for them to do that urgent requirement 🙂
Binyamin Netanyahu’s long haul to New York to ‘avoid arrest’
Little, even tiny things to hearten my morning
Before you vote in a general election, do you read the manifesto of all the parties or even the party You plan to vote for?
Feel free to boost 🚀
| No. I read nothing: | 5 |
| I read a bit of the manifesto: | 25 |
| I read the news papers: | 16 |
| I read 'my' party's manifesto: | 7 |
| I read all the party manifestos: | 28 |
| Africa by Toto: | 18 |
Closed
@Tattooed_Mummy
None of the above. With 30+ parties contesting the election I can't read all of them. If their leaders say interesting things, I try to read the manifestos of their parties to make a short list, and try to follow news of them and pick the most attractive among those. When their leaders make idiotic statements, I don't bother to read their manifestos.
@hayesstw I'm lucky if we have 3 to choose from locally. But during the years in the run up, ie from now, I do start reading them. It's so obvious some people only rely on the bits the news media report on. I find that so frustrating.
@Tattooed_Mummy my behaviour doesn't really fit your scheme - I read bits of a few manifestos!
But I actually voted tactically and against my usual party in an effort to reduce what was clearly going to be a Labour landslide! (I felt dirty doing so.)
The climate has gone bonkers here in Germany. Not sure if it’s winter or summer. Green leaves, sunny days. But it’s dark early and the temperature is barely in the mid-teens.